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Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by ImprovedSilence on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:39AM (#26492709)
I agree here to that this is the exact issue.

I will also add though that I think there is another dimension as well. I think much perceived middle manager "incompetence" stems from middle management juggling direction/pressure/expectations from senior management, and the realities of the program and the engineers. The best managers are capable of managing expectations from above while keeping their team shielded from all that overhead and just keeping the team chugging along and being productive. Other managers seem to have the ability to weigh their team down by allowing too much of the "managment overhead tasks" to leak down to individual engineers. I've seen this vary across programs and managers, and can't say I know all the answers, but I do know I much prefer the role of the IC....

Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by airhead969 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @01:50PM (#26494605)
Organizations should strive to:

- reduce Peter Principle and pyramid org-chart building

- retain, train, and invest in good managers as a profession, not a will to power

- hire more administrative and secretarial people to navigate the minutia to unblock highly-paid employees from finding answers in the bureaucracy and doing unnecessarily-dumb paperwork

Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by yaml-ops-guy on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:29PM (#26493406)
How have you found success balancing these things? It’s been my experience that managers of the first group eventually become unintentional members of the second group, even despite their best efforts to maintain productivity of their subordinates with intentional prioritization and grooming exercises because the business wants that new feature yesterday, and not getting it means lost revenue, angry customers and negative performance reviews.

What happens though when the business puts these types of middle managers in the impossible position of not being able to say “no, this isn’t a priority right now” but still expected to maintain the same amounts of engineering productivity and feature throughput?

I didn’t write this article, but it sums up my headspace, currently: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/stop-doing-more-less-2019-mat...

Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by Aeolun on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @08:15PM (#26498408)
> not getting it means lost revenue, angry customers and negative performance reviews

Staying in exactly the same place won’t affect revenue, customers or performance reviews at all. It’s when people work under the mistaken assumption that they have to increase at all costs that you have a problem.

Re:Common Mistakes of New Engineering Managers by SergeAx on Friday March 19, 2021 @02:37AM (#26510609)
> business wants that new feature yesterday, and not getting it means lost revenue

That's just plain bad planning on a business side of the company. They should either fix that, or face gradual departure of their workforce, from best to mediocre.