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Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by jarek83 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:14PM (#26485375)
Funny how Google went from user's hero to zero.
Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by crazygringo on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:22PM (#26485423)
Only on HN.

Otherwise it's the #1 browser by usage by far, which is saying a lot considering it doesn't come preinstalled on Windows or on Macs, so all those users are making a deliberate choice to switch.

So still the hero outside of HN.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by still_grokking on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:45AM (#26486646)
Google is gas-lighting people into using Chrome…

Ever used for example YouTube with an alternative browser?

It's buggy, it's slow (and that's on purpose; Google puts regularly quite some engineering effort into using web features that don't work well in the last independent competing browser). But those Google pages have a big banner saying it will work better in Chrome, and asking the users to "try".

That strategy works very efficiently as Google controls the sites most average people use the whole time.

That's one of the reasons why Google's monopolies need to be broken by regulation. Actually they're over-due for a break-up.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by bmn__ on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @07:30AM (#26489554)
> [Youtube is] buggy, it's slow (and that's on purpose; Google puts regularly quite some engineering effort into using web features that don't work well in the last independent competing browser).

https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/disable-polymer-you...

Yes, it's a work-around, not a long-term solution and does not help with the underlying problem. Spread the word and enjoy it while it lasts.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by drstewart on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @04:04PM (#26496155)
That's not what gaslighting means.
Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by brokenmachine on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @11:13PM (#26499379)
I don't mind using Youtube on Firefox over here, and I don't find it slow.

With adblocker I have nothing to complain about.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by 27182818284 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @01:22AM (#26486876)
I actually understand what the grandparent is talking about with respect to the "hero" to "zero" comment they made, though I might not say that it has fallen all the way to zero.

The reason I understand their comment is because there was a period of time when Google was so cool that people wore Google t-shirts without having ever been affiliated with Google. You could find random college students wearing a Google t-shirt like they would a band t-shirt.

Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by beardyw on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @06:33AM (#26489062)
I wish I could hear you but there's this echo ....
Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by llaolleh on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:22AM (#26486508)
It's because most of HN user queries are very niche.
Re:Ask HN: What are some “10x” software product innovations ... by still_grokking on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @12:50AM (#26486684)
No, it's because since the search is more and more based on user tracking data run through some "AI" the results become garbage for people that don't use the same five sites on the net the whole time, and prevent Google's tracking as much as possible additionally.