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Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by throwaway6734 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:06AM (#26477687)
>But it’s almost taboo in socially progressive circles to say that family structure matters (even though this is obvious to Asians).

You must hang in some especially woke circles

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by ceilingcorner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:08AM (#26477728)
Doesn't seem that extreme to me. Even saying that divorce should be avoided at all costs and a two parent household is vastly superior to a single parent one is enough to get labeled as a conservative by many.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by throwaway6734 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:19AM (#26477923)
Definitely not by the average American. Twitter and San Fran/Portland are a small minority of the US.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by ceilingcorner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:27AM (#26478051)
College students too, unfortunately.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by throwaway6734 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:45AM (#26478340)
So a small minority with almost no experience raising children?
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by ceilingcorner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:46AM (#26478368)
The question isn't whether they are correct (clearly they aren't) but if they are influential in culture and government.

Many/most social movements start on college campuses, so I would consider it pretty relevant.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by rayiner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:50PM (#26481162)
Yes, but you’d be surprised how woke some circles have become: https://freebeacon.com/campus/northwestern-law-administrator.... That’s from my quite business-oriented law school.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by monoideism on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:18AM (#26477901)
Try saying that you believe that two-parent households are better for a kid that single-parent households in the presence of anyone who considers themselves social justice oriented or left-wing.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by zeruch on Friday March 19, 2021 @09:34PM (#26519985)
I live in the very liberal Bay Area, and I have indeed said that repeatedly, and rarely do I get pushback. The biggest question is "do those parents have to be a hetero couple?" to which I reply "nope, but unless the single parent has amazing cash means or a large extended family to support them, then generally regardless of much else, 2 is better than 1".

I've never otherwise had a difficult time supporting that position in front of young SJWs at all.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by freedom42 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @12:05PM (#26478632)
I usually agree with leftist views and I feel like having both parents is good for the kid. Maybe only fringe leftists believe otherwise. Or maybe it's lacking context, for example the discussion might be about abusive partners, or single people who don't want to marry but want to adopt a kid.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by monoideism on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @01:09PM (#26479686)
> single people who don't want to marry but want to adopt a kid

ie, a single parent.

BTW, I'm kind of on the left as well, in some ways (eg, I think income inequality and poverty is a huge problem). I just can't stand the current leftist orthodoxy, which is belligerently anti-fact if they don't like where the facts lead (two-parent households being a great example).

I guess I'm a Laschian leftist, or Laschian conservative, depending on your view of Lasch.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by throwaway6734 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:20AM (#26477938)
Does left-wing include the majority of Biden's base?

Woke twitter is a small minority.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by monoideism on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @01:02PM (#26479565)
The media is Woke twitter, or at least a large part of it.

And if you don't believe that the media doesn't have any influence on people, particularly Biden's base, try reading Chomsky's _Manufacturing Consent_, or even Walter Lippman, if you want to read someone who thinks this influence is a positive thing.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by jimbokun on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:32AM (#26478140)
Seems to include the policy setting part of Biden's base.
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by throwaway6734 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:43AM (#26478331)
Which policies and who?
Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by jimbokun on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @11:46AM (#26478362)
The American Rescue Plan Act is being called the most significant progressive legislation, maybe since the New Deal.

Not saying that makes it bad, but it's certainly boldly progressive.

Re:Encountering Thomas Sowell by rayiner on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:51PM (#26481183)
No, but it includes the vast majority of the 20-30 year old college grads that comprise the rank and file of Biden’s staff. And those people are influential.