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Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by pabs3 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:37AM (#26473689)
Probably the SIM porting attacks, where telco employees are vulnerable to being socially engineered to letting an attacker port your phone number over to another device. Also this new attack, which is more stealthy.
Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by michael_j_x on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @02:44AM (#26473713)
But that is not really true for most countries. In my country, to get a sim ported you need to go to the shop and present your identification.
Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by bawolff on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @04:17AM (#26474159)
Social engineering is all about convincing people to do things they aren't supposed to do.
Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by jfrunyon on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @08:35AM (#26475869)
In all countries, you have but to prove to some lowly paid telco employee's satisfaction that you are the owner of the number. That is not a serious impediment.
Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by flemhans on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @04:50AM (#26474342)
Same here (Denmark with Hi3G), but they often forget. I've had a new SIM issued for myself just by saying the phone number.

Of course that's several orders of magnitudes harder to do than just finding a leaked password somewhere, so it's still nice to have SMS as 2FA compared to nothing. It'll stop the mass bots.

Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by baybal2 on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @04:07AM (#26474113)
Well, if somebody can mess with ss7 they wouldn't need even that.
Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by tzs on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @09:07AM (#26476200)
Or even porting accidents. If anything goes wrong when you are switching carriers and intentionally having your number ported to the new carrier, you could be left with a non-working number until you get it resolved (which can be difficult because your phone is no longer working...).

And even if nothing goes wrong, it can take up to a day for the number to port in the US. That's a day without being about to login to anyplace that requires SMS 2FA.

A TOTP app on my phone, on the other hand, works fine regardless of whether or not my phone number currently works with the SIM in that phone.

Re:It’s time to stop using SMS for security by eythian on Tuesday March 16, 2021 @07:18AM (#26475291)
Some countries resolve the porting issue by having a list of numbers that have been ported, so that banks (for example) can check that and not rely on it if the port happened in the past two weeks (also, for example.)