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Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by fny on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:20AM (#26465104)
In 1933, Roosevelt banned holding gold and silver. In 1934, the Gold Reserve Act allowed the government to set a fixed price for gold and buy out all domestic gold holdings for cash. This remained in effect until 1961 when the laws were relaxed. Then in 1971, the US jumped off the gold standard. Prior to that point, gold was the global reserve currency.

BTC is far less widely owned and far less legitimate than gold was in the 1930s (it actually was the global reserve currency then). The political friction is low for heavy regulation or an outright ban across even developed markets.

My bet is that the green argument will be the first attempt to neuter BTC.

Disclaimer: BTC neutral. I own a small amount, and treat it like an option on a speculative asset.

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by throwaway20875 on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:35AM (#26465274)
>My bet is that the green argument will be the first attempt to neuter BTC.

Seeing a lot of seemingly inorganic noise on this. At the same time in the US, we are running a power grid like a country that inherited it from its imperialist colonizers from the distant past with no inherent capability to improve or even sustain it. 650K miles of transmission lines are oversubscribed and there are less than a dozen regional substations that act as an aggregate single-point-of-failure for the entire country. Texas was the canary in the coal mine.

The fact that we're not having the genuine discussion around improving the efficiency, cleanliness, and resiliency of our infrastructure lays the true capabilities of my country and the intentions of those in power bare: we are a declining power managed by corrupt and power mad psychopaths. Bitcoin is the least of our worries - it's actually a symptom of loss of faith in the system.

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by Loughla on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:30PM (#26468088)
>The fact that we're not having the genuine discussion around improving the efficiency, cleanliness, and resiliency of our infrastructure lays the true capabilities of my country and the intentions of those in power bare: we are a declining power managed by corrupt and power mad psychopaths.

While I agree that we are managed by corrupt and power mad psychopaths, I'm not sure infrastructure spending (or lack thereof) should lay at their feet.

It is a symptom of our elections that infrastructure and other non-sexy spending takes a backseat to large, mega projects designed to funnel federal and state dollars to localities. Politicians do not set the rules, voters set the rules. And the rule is that stability and planning are less important than flash and PR.

And it's sad, and I'm convinced that this shortsightedness will cause people I know to die from something that could've been prevented (not coronavirus, like cancer or starvation or war).

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by fny on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:47AM (#26467378)
I agree Bitcoin is the least of anyone's worries from an energy perspective. The politicians just need some excuse to take on cryptocurrency, and the green argument smells like the kind of thing they'd latch onto.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by throwaway20875 on Monday March 15, 2021 @12:31PM (#26468090)
Yes, I understood and agree with your point. I'm adding that it's a distraction from a far more serious discussion and revealing in itself of deeper issues.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:31AM (#26465225)
I came here to say what you just said so I am glad someone did it more eloquently. I find it interesting how many things recently were rationalized/pushed using environmentalism. I suppose it is a step forward from think of the children.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by sergefaguet on Monday March 15, 2021 @11:11AM (#26466927)
what is important to remember is that people who ignored the law made a huge return on holding their gold, and people who followed the law lost out

bans are a very strong advertisement for piling into the asset being banned. especially when holders of the asset in question are quite difficult to identify

another related point is that busting regulations is a great way to create great wealth. Dhirubhai Ambani created his first capital by smuggling. the Rothschilds did too – by busting Napoleon's sanctions

make your own conclusions about ways to behave in response to economic regulations ;)

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Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by esnard on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:31AM (#26465224)
Which country are you living in?
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by qertoip on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:17PM (#26469189)
Poland.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by Ariez on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:31AM (#26465227)
What the hell - what country?

You need to move ASAP.

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by tw04 on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:41AM (#26465339)
He's being inflammatory by trying to imply that temporary pandemic restrictions are permanent laws banning those things. Everything isn't becoming illegal, society has just decided the lives of our at-risk citizens are more important than a temporary halt to social life.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by qertoip on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:22PM (#26469251)
"Temporary"? It's been A YEAR and tens of thousands of businesses and families going bankrupt. And there is no end in sight to this.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by Ariez on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:09AM (#26465645)
Okay, pretty annoying comment by him!
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by mk81 on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:59AM (#26465554)
> temporary

I lol-ed

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by jMyles on Monday March 15, 2021 @09:19AM (#26465735)
Gross. "Society" hasn't decided this. A fringe cohort of bureaucrats, skilled at dressing up pseudoscientific police state tactics as public health, have rammed it through against the objection of the most accomplished experts on the topic.

And it's not to protect "our at risk citizens" but to protect our affluent citizens. Since all of the ostensible attenuation of horizontal interdiction depends on resources which poor people simply don't have, the acuity is spread is necessarily wealth-stratified in such a configuration.

And the consequences haven't been "a temporary halt to social life", but death, disease, and misery visited about marginalized and unhoused communities under the euphemistic guise of an "essential" working class.

Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by gruez on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:33AM (#26465252)
Many western countries have banned those things because of covid restrictions.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by fvv on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:33AM (#26465257)
I suppose he mean temporarily because covid restrictions..
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by flippant on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:41AM (#26465337)
After a year it’s not reasonable to call the restrictions temporary.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by exyi on Monday March 15, 2021 @08:59AM (#26465544)
In reasonable countries these businesses still get at least some compensation. That makes it a temporary restriction, the government would not be interested in paying it forever.
Re:India to propose cryptocurrency ban, penalising miners an... by qertoip on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:25PM (#26469289)
"Temporarily" like a f**cking YEAR. Some business owners committed suicide over this, so I guess its safe to say permanent for them at least.