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Re:What Ended Indie by hermitcrab on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:02AM (#26455966)
>“an alternative financing program that was aimed at slow-growth, bootstrapped founders”

I have always understood 'bootstrapped' to mean self-financed by savings/profits. I.e. pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. Have VCs started co-opting that term as well now?

Re:What Ended Indie by Ensorceled on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:48AM (#26456318)
Yes, but the author is using "bootstrapped" in the past tense. i.e. a founder who was bootstrapped but might be willing to take money that didn't have a ton of strings and a set of "okay, now roll the dice on rocket growth with a do or die deadline" marching orders attached.
Re:What Ended Indie by ZephyrBlu on Sunday March 14, 2021 @06:06PM (#26459812)
> "okay, now roll the dice on rocket growth with a do or die deadline"

From what I've seen this this is not the attitude most boostrappers have.

Sure, sometimes you have bootstrapped companies that turn into VC-backed hypergrowth companies but there seems to be a shift away from "grow or die" for bootstrapped companies taking funding.

Re:What Ended Indie by deecewan on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:10PM (#26460994)
that's pretty much what the comment above is saying. Bootstrapped founders may take money, if they aren't told "you need rocket growth now"
Re:What Ended Indie by ZephyrBlu on Sunday March 14, 2021 @08:40PM (#26461223)
Ahh yeah I misread the comment.
Re:What Ended Indie by sharkweek on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:09AM (#26456019)
I believe the point here is they didn’t want to fund companies that had taken any VC money yet, not necessarily that they wouldn’t ever.
Re:What Ended Indie by EGreg on Sunday March 14, 2021 @11:49AM (#26456328)
No, Indie really meant it. I think. Wanted to fund the founders who were bootstrapped until that point.

However, do not be surprised about co-opting. Co-opting by venture capitalists is normal. Many industries co-opt things as well, and redefine them to be mean something more “efficient”.

Example: The terms friend and like were co-opted by Facebook. Now people say friend me and “please like my stuff” as a throwaway statement. These terms used to mean something deep and genuine up to 15 years ago. That’s what capitalism does - cheapens things and commoditizes them. Often, that is useful but sometimes it cheapens things you used to value highly.

Re:What Ended Indie by fractionalhare on Sunday March 14, 2021 @02:39PM (#26457622)
Eh...Facebook's use the word "friend" as a verb has not eroded my deep and meaningful sense of the word as a noun. It's just another use which has been added to our cultural context. It's up to you to let it change your perspective on friendship.
Re:What Ended Indie by EGreg on Sunday March 14, 2021 @03:32PM (#26458157)
And what of liking things?
Re:What Ended Indie by mst on Sunday March 14, 2021 @04:24PM (#26458759)
For me, functions dual use, though grammatically both are similar enough that it operates significantly via context.
Re:What Ended Indie by fractionalhare on Sunday March 14, 2021 @10:08PM (#26461848)
I don't know...what of it? I still like people, I still like things. Thumb and heart icons on social media haven't changed how or what I like.

Semantically, I generally understand a person who says they "liked" a thing to mean the social media verb. Context also makes it pretty clear.