Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by d0mine on Friday March 12, 2021 @10:09PM
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More likely the one person would hire some people to convince the rest that it in their best interests that all money belong to the one person or even more likely to provide to the people some distraction, destroy the notion of the facts, so they wouldn't even know to ask inconvenient questions.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by Dolores12 on Friday March 12, 2021 @10:35PM
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Money used to represent the value backed up by gold in bank storage. Nowadays its just a paper, so indeed its easy to create new money.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by jwolfe on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:37PM
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Not that gold has a massive magical intrinsic value. That was also arbitrary.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by gorgoiler on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:49PM
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It is hard to mine and hard to find.
If you make a fresh piece of gold and show it to the world, you are proving that you have done some known — or at least bounded — amount of work.
In gold’s case, that work is gas, electricity, and human labor. If someone shows up with gold that cost less to produce, the price goes down.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by panarky on Saturday March 13, 2021 @01:15AM
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> proving that you have done some known — or at least bounded — amount of work
Work for the sake of work is not valuable.
You could record video proving that you dug a hole 20 feet deep with your bare hands and then filled it up again.
That's a lot of work, but it wouldn't be valuable to anyone, except maybe as comedy.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by justushamalaine on Saturday March 13, 2021 @10:22AM
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Well cards against humanity did that and the hole was worth over 100k!
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/28/cards-aga...
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by _flux on Saturday March 13, 2021 @02:12AM
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The video wouldn't be valuable, because it's trivial to duplicate.
However, should it be impossible to copy videos and the only way to do a video would be to capture the events as they happen, then perhaps your video would have value.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by riffraff on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:25AM
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I'm surprised there aren't a ton of NFTs for videos of people digging holes and filling them up, riffing on both "proof of work" and keynesian ideas.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by imtringued on Monday March 15, 2021 @05:59AM
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The reasoning behind keynesian gold digging is that rich people will not accept that the government hands out money to poor people because that would threaten private businesses who are dependent on cheap labor. To make sure that the government money doesn't compete with private money you just force people to do worthless work so that working as a waiter for minimum wage is still more attractive than digging holes in summer heat. The entire point is that digging holes sucks. Meanwhile cryptocurrencies glorify digging holes.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by iamacyborg on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:57AM
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Why do actual work when you can just sell somebody elses as your own?
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by JumpCrisscross on Saturday March 13, 2021 @06:57AM
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> If you make a fresh piece of gold and show it to the world, you are proving that you have done some known — or at least bounded — amount of work
Making origami pirate ships also requires a certain amount of work. That doesn’t give it value.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by stonesweep on Saturday March 13, 2021 @08:19AM
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Much like Ethereum, gold has an actual use post discovery/creation but your origami crane does not (outside of artistic value and testing for replicants) - GP did not go into the details, but they chose an appropriate analogy - origami cranes, not so much. Fun trivia: NASA uses a bunch of gold https://spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff1997/hm2.html
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by jkhdigital on Saturday March 13, 2021 @10:51AM
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Value density is the differentiator. The amount of work required to produce a single ounce of gold is many orders of magnitude greater than the ancillary costs of storing or transporting that ounce.
Re:Vitalik escalates ETH 2.0 merge as miners plan a 51% attack
by vincnetas on Saturday March 13, 2021 @03:02AM
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And exactly that happened to aluminium. After its discovery its cost was bigger than gold. Until more effective ways to ectract it were discovered. That does not mean that aluminium is useless.
Imagine what would happen if one person held literally all the money. It may be easier to imagine a 100-person community rather than the whole world.
One thing that would have to happen is everyone else would develop their own money/currency, which would turn mean that the one person with all the money is no longer the one person with all the money.
A thing quite likely to happen is that everyone would decide that whatever the money is that the one person has, everybody would decide it is not money.
It isn't entirely dissimilar from me claiming I have all the Jerfoleans on the world, and what the world is really doing about that currency right now. They're worth a zero so zero-y that even an infinite number of them is still worth a flat zero. Someone who has "all the money" might find themselves in a similar boat.