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by phkahler on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:13AM
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That's why odd gaps appear. Like an article about how China can't manufacture the balls for ball-point pens, or critical parts for jet engines.
Maybe a few missing pieces are why Intel cant seem to figure out EUV lithography.
None of these things are trivial and probably not documented in a way where a noob could pick them up.
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by shakezula on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:38AM
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Even just the specific knowledge of building a house is probably a generation removed from most people these days. It scares me to think of just how fragile we really are.
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by hnuser123456 on Friday March 12, 2021 @12:11PM
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Sure, but what is forgotten makes room for novel ideas which are hopefully sometimes improvements. Plus, now we have computers to write and share this knowledge so it doesn't always have to be memorized.
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by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Friday March 12, 2021 @01:06PM
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> which are hopefully sometimes improvements
The death of Latin is very upsetting.
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by qiqing on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:02PM
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Technically, there are more Latin speakers alive today than cumulatively during the Roman Empire. However, I think negligibly few are _native_ speakers.
Exponential population growth is weird.
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by rajansaini on Friday March 12, 2021 @01:23PM
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Why is that out of curiosity?
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by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Friday March 12, 2021 @04:05PM
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Reading the English for Catullus 16 (pretty dirty) and feeling jealous that they could put it so succinctly in their own language. Also this TED talk https://www.ted.com/talks/lera_boroditsky_how_language_shape....
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by pmlnr on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:27PM
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It was the common language of the time.
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by NoImmatureAdHom on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:23PM
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by shakezula on Friday March 12, 2021 @06:43PM
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This is absolutely perfect and is exactly the type of knowledge that I'm so afraid we'll lose with even one generation of major civil disruption.
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by leafmeal on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:00PM
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Can you elaborate on the Saturn V a bit more?
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by ontekhunhsentuh on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:43PM
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This came up when people started looking sideways at the ballooning costs of the Space Launch System. Even though we have extensive blueprints and even parts left over from Saturn V rockets, the institutional knowledge to use any of those things simply doesn't exist anymore, and would have to be re-created at exceptional cost of you wanted to build another one.
https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/6281/why-not-build...
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by Bjartr on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:02PM
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IIRC, even if we could, we can do better. For example a Saturn V engine is around 5,000 parts, though we've lost the knowledge to assemble them. However, a contemporary study of that found that, with modern manufacturing techniques, you can build an equivalent today with just 40 parts.
The result is that even a gap of a single generation is enough for some knowledge to be lost. That's why Roman concrete was forgotten, why we can't build a Saturn V anymore, why you can't just start a chip-fab with enough money, and why it's so hard to maintain code without access to someone that designed the code-base.
Most things, even if they're written down, are more accurately modelled in someone's brain.