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Re:UK to depart from GDPR by sverhagen on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:17AM (#26434057)
I have no doubt you're right, but I'm just not familiar with the specific details. What are some real ways they stand to "profit immensely"?
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by benwad on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:25AM (#26434118)
Lowering taxes, lowering regulatory and environmental standards, and undoing workers' rights legislation can all increase the wealth of those who are already wealthy. I'm not saying all of those things are in the pipeline, but they've all been proposed by pro-Brexit politicians (and this article is one example of lowering regulatory standards).
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by marcus_holmes on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:28AM (#26434146)
Privatising the health system is the elephant in the room that's been talked about a lot.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by callamdelaney on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:56AM (#26434371)
The Conservatives aren't stupid enough to privatize the NHS. It's a straw man argument - the NHS, much like the EU, is irrationally loved by the common voter and only Labour can get away with privatizing it, having perpetuated the complete myth that they are in some way its defenders while, according to them, the evil conservatives always have some corrupt plan to sack it off.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by gobsmacked on Friday March 12, 2021 @03:04PM (#26440252)
> lowering environmental standards

This is much talked about but so far I've only been seeing the opposite. Since brexit, the UK has so far banned fish trawling in the North sea, banned live export of animals, banned the import of fois gras, and created a much more environmentally friendly alternative to the EU's (absolutely atrocious) common agricultural policy.

> lowering regulatory standards

I'd argue that not all regulation is good regulation, e.g. the GDPR

> Lowering taxes

This is could feasibly happen and you could say it already is by looking at the way the tories have further rigged the housing market and stamp duty post-covid. But I fail to see what that has to do with the EU really. I don't know a lot on this subject though.

> undoing workers' rights legislation

I can see this one happening sadly. Am I not right in saying though that a lot of workers rights come from the judiciary, not the government? Example: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56123668

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by Mauricebranagh on Friday March 12, 2021 @06:13AM (#26434493)
Oh and second amendment style gun rights too
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by bodelecta on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:09AM (#26437227)
Absolute nonsense. Only a few days ago it was the 25th anniversary of Dunblane, a massacre that will never be forgotten and out of which the snowdrop petition forced the government to have some of the strictest gun laws in the world. Who in the UK looks at the US and thinks "yes, we should have more guns"?
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by Mauricebranagh on Monday March 15, 2021 @07:22AM (#26464593)
A lot of the hardliner Brexiteers would go for it (an Englishman's home is his castle) an Farage actually mentioned it.

Brexiteers would see tony martin as a hero.

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by pjc50 on Friday March 12, 2021 @12:50PM (#26438578)
Not actually an EU competence. Brexit is irrelevant to gun law and some EU countries are fairly liberal.

(Is this another one of those issues where someone is in favour of Brexit because they think the EU prevents something that is nothing to do with them, because they've been lied to by the UK press again?)

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by dash2 on Friday March 12, 2021 @06:28AM (#26434597)
I find it very hard to believe that that would be a popular policy in the UK. Got evidence?
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by sofixa on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:10AM (#26435446)
Yeah, even policemen rarely have guns in the UK, allowing everyone to have one would be lunacy.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by Mauricebranagh on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:40AM (#26435683)
You know we can own shotguns and full power rifles (303) in the UK.

Thankfully the armed police have very stringent training in the Uk.

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by sofixa on Friday March 12, 2021 @10:31AM (#26436845)
Yes, you can, but you can't buy them at Tesco with zero paperwork.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by Izkata on Friday March 12, 2021 @03:21PM (#26440421)
Nor can you in the US (you need to apply for a permit and pass background checks), so not sure what your point is.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by gadders on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:54AM (#26436424)
And even larger I think. A chap I spoke to at lunchtime has a .308 for deer hunting.

What we can't have is pistols, apart from 20 or so people in the Olympic pistol shooting teams.

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by Mauricebranagh on Friday March 12, 2021 @08:38AM (#26435659)
Farage mentioned it and decent proportion of Brexiteers would go for it.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by gadders on Friday March 12, 2021 @09:53AM (#26436401)
I think there is a case to be made that not all regulations are good regulations, and the UK can perhaps move faster than the EU - for instance by permitting genetically edited (via CRISPR) food to be grown and sold.

Do you know what does help keep the wealthy wealthy? A ready supply of cheap labour from outside the UK.

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by shubb on Friday March 12, 2021 @05:46AM (#26434308)
There are some theories in the UK that are close to conspiracy theory.

Many leading brexit proponents are rich people who made their money from the collapse of the soviet union and have assets largely outside the UK. One conspiracy theory is that they are attempting to crash the UK economy in order to buy the dip, make money from shorts and the sell off of state assets.

Another conspiracy theory is that brexit has an ideological basis in the idea of the soverign individual - related to the idea of the randian hero, the idea is that as states weaken in power, rich people will be able to transcend citizenship and attain some kind of libertarian utopia where they can do what ever they want. One of the leading brexiteers dad wrote a book about it which apparently has some following, but maybe people are just surprised that right wing politicians want a smaller state.

There is also an idea that the UK and its dependencies (e.g. virgin islands) are a tax haven. A lot of brexit money came from US activist billionaires and hedge funds, but a lot of it came from very rich russians who fled tot he UK in the 1990s with huge amounts of money that Russia say was stolen visa corruption and other criminality. The theory is that brexit was a response to EU money laundering and tax evasion rules that would have linked these rich criminals to their money to its sources, leaving them open to russian legal challenge. The theory is that for those people, brexit was a means to escape the net.

In my opinion, the role these factors played is probably overstated - brexit was primarily a backlash against globalisation and change, and a protest against the UK status quo by parts of the population that didn't believe they benefited enough from it, much like the election of Trump in the US.

Re:UK to depart from GDPR by 7_my_mind on Friday March 12, 2021 @06:21AM (#26434555)
There was no grand conspiracy and no master architects of chaos. It was simply a meme that got out of hand. It started out as a sentiment, a set of ideas that I would call liberal chauvinism. Then anti-immigration got on board. Then the Tories tried to win the anti-immigration folk back, but instead got swallowed by the BREXIT movement, along with a big chunk of Labour.
Re:UK to depart from GDPR by propertymagnate on Friday March 12, 2021 @06:48AM (#26434744)
This seems pretty much it to me.