Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by throw1234651234 on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:39AM
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This. I can do programming problems in Java, but I definitely can't lead a team doing a Java project. I don't what Gradle/Maven/etc really are. I don't have years of experience with how libraries, the API request pipeline, middleware, etc work. I don't know little tricks / nuanaces, like the fact that Visual Studio has to be restarted for local code to pick up new environment variables, why String and string are the same thing, etc, etc, etc.
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Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by soperj on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @10:50AM
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Gradle & Maven are just build tools. They can be used for other stuff, but that's what they're mostly used for in my experience.
Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by faceplanted on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @11:41AM
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I actually find the things _around_ the languages like build tools and ansible and such by far the more confusing parts of dev work just because I never know which of them I should spend time trying to understand and if I just want a runthrough for someone who can already program I never know where to look.
Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by AtlasBarfed on Thursday March 11, 2021 @09:59PM
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Lots of new languages that arose in reflex to the "stack complexity" of Java ... eventually achieved the same stack complexity with a totally different set of framework/tool names.
Ruby/Rails in particular became this. Javascript rocketed to this complexity level, with the added chaos of seemingly reinventing the entire toolchains every 2 years.
Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by soperj on Friday March 12, 2021 @11:15AM
(#26437332)
yeah, i never understood that part. People wanting to use javascript on the backend, but not having any of those tools. They exist for a reason, and it's not to make things more complicated.
Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by AtlasBarfed on Friday March 12, 2021 @02:26PM
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IMO the tools that have been created to fill the gaps seem to be poor imitations of dotNet, rails, and java frameworks.
The testing framework I saw in a React app were almost straight from java, but somehow (despite JS being more flexible and script) MUCH uglier.
Re:We created a fake language to root out resume liars
by soperj on Wednesday March 10, 2021 @03:34PM
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When I started developing I felt the same way. One day I finally decided that maven was going to be around long enough (and I was going to be a java dev long enough) to spend some time learning. It didn't take long, couple days at most, man has it saved me a lot of grief over the years. CSS was the same, although it took longer than a couple of days, it has been more than worth it.