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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by ZiiS on Monday March 08, 2021 @02:34AM (#26383128)

DDG do far more work then just syndicating Bing. The have their own crawl, combine many sources, and are much stronger at down weighting low vaulue content. For many they also have an up hill battle against Google as personalising search results to your interests is a double edged sword.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by rjzzleep on Monday March 08, 2021 @02:43AM (#26383182)

Unfortunately DDG is really only useful for english search results. I tried running it as my default search engine, but in most places it's more or less useless.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by Semaphor on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:04AM (#26383281)

Great for non-english results for me, I simply search with !ddgde which flips the "Germany"-switch to on.

You and others keep saying this, but you really need to mention which non-English languages you are talking about as at least some of them are pretty good.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by lawl on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:23AM (#26383369)

Ok, but google just works for me if i type english or german queries. DDG doesn't.

I've been using ddg as a default engine and wasn't aware of this. (also !ddgde is a lot more to type than !g)

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by Semaphor on Monday March 08, 2021 @04:57AM (#26383957)

They show a switch for me even when I search in English.

With google, I sometimes wish I had an easy switch like that when the terms are also available in English as currently this makes their results useless.

!ddgde is indeed a bit long, but as most of my searches are not local, I can live with it ;)

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by oezi on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:48AM (#26383509)

Completely opposite experience: German Google brings up so much irrelevant things when searching in English.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by rjzzleep on Monday March 08, 2021 @03:31AM (#26383421)

Chinese? Japanese? Probably a huge amount of LTR languages?

It's not "You and others keep saying this... provide some examples".

It's that you have a tiny scope of what you consider to be the world.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by Semaphor on Monday March 08, 2021 @04:55AM (#26383940)

> It's that you have a tiny scope of what you consider to be the world.

No, that’s something you put into my mouth.

This is why I was asking. Unlike others, I explained which language works great. "Doesn’t work" is useless without saying what it doesn’t work for. "Does/Doesn’t work for language X" is actually relevant information.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by kergonath on Monday March 08, 2021 @10:56AM (#26387028)

From my experience, it’s not great with queries in French, but it is not terrible either. I tend to use g! much more in French than English.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by jamiek88 on Monday March 08, 2021 @02:40AM (#26383168)

Plus !bangs they kept it useful for me before I got used to their search. I rarely !g nowadays and being able to quickly dip in and out of sites for specific things is great. Like a super ‘I’m feeling lucky’ with parameters.

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Re:The new Google Pay repeats all the same mistakes of Googl... by mda on Monday March 08, 2021 @04:42AM (#26383833)

Non trivial queries are answered from Bing index. So it is not really "much more than" it.

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