Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by matheusmoreira on Sunday March 07, 2021 @05:45PM
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Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by sodality2 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @08:10PM
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He kicked it off of cloudflare, not the internet
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by ttt0 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @09:25PM
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They were successfully censored from the internet for quite some time. I believe they were only available through the onion. They must've burned through like two dozens of domains at this point.
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by sodality2 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @10:19PM
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Changing info at the registrar would have fixed this, they would probably have only lasted a few minutes w/o DDOS but it's not like cloudflare singlehandedly banished them from the internet. I mean, they sort of did due to the lack of protection, but it's not like cloudflare has the keys to the entire internet; just their ddos service.
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by ttt0 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @11:01PM
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Sure, I'm not saying that they are the only people responsible. The thing is that everyone has the same mindset to the point where it seems almost like a coordinated effort. And Cloudflare's CEO admitted that the purpose behind their actions was to kick them off the internet.
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by krapp on Sunday March 07, 2021 @07:30PM
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> Wow that's extremely fucked up. He's right, nobody should have that power. If they do have that power, we should take it away from them.
I agree. We should make the government use its monopoly on force to take freedoms away from people we disagree with. How dare a company decide with whom it does business and under what terms?
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by matheusmoreira on Sunday March 07, 2021 @09:56PM
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Domain name registrars aren't normal companies. They're more like a government institution. The government can't refuse to recognize the fact I own my house just because they don't like my political opinions. Why should it be any different with internet domain names?
Re:Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites
by Dylan16807 on Sunday March 07, 2021 @10:32PM
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It's not about agreement or disagreement, it's about monopolies.
I am fine if the government takes away the freedom of corporations to grow arbitrarily large.
I am also fine with the government making corporations choose between the ability to grow arbitrarily large and the ability to kick off users without due process.
There's no need to take any freedoms away from normal-size companies.
> Huh. How could they just do that? It eventually went back up right?
> Do you have more examples?
The first big deplatforming case was probably Cloudflare pulling The Daily Stormer. This is what Cloudflare CEO said:
> "Literally, I woke up in a bad mood and decided someone shouldn't be allowed on the Internet. No one should have that power."
Seems like even he agrees that they shouldn't be allowed to do that.