Re:Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code
by nyanpasu64 on Saturday March 06, 2021 @09:32PM
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A faster/lighter JetBrains IDE would beat everything in VSCode... except for price. CLion and WebStorm and PhpStorm cost money, there's no dedicated Rust IDE yet, and you have to pay money for CLion or (IntelliJ Ultimate) (not Community) to debug Rust programs.
There is already a Light Mode version of IntelliJ designed to compete with Sublime Text and maybe VS Code. It's not entirely obvious that it exists and they need to market it way better, but if you run "idea whatever.txt" from the CLI and the IDE isn't already open, you'll open in light mode. It starts nearly instantly because it's not loading all the plugins and project infrastructure.
I didn't know about light mode. I'll definitely try it out.
And still, it's really cheap if you consider the amount of work you have to put into configuring other products like VS Code where you end up with an inferior experience. I think it pays off.
For a professional, jetbrains basically pays for itself within a day of starting to use it (in my opinion). I know a lot of people prefer VS code, but I frankly cannot imagine why.
Re:Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code
by neonological on Sunday March 07, 2021 @11:32PM
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Well being free is still a benefit. And it is much faster then then any jetbrains IDE.
I prefer jetbrains like you, but some people like their apps to be really snappy.
Re:Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code
by forsakenharmony on Sunday March 07, 2021 @11:51PM
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The only thing where I really perceive VS Code to be faster is startup
The rest might be a tiny bit slower but it more than makes up for it with better UI/UX, code always feels a bit awkward
This really depends. If I open 20 large projects in the same vs code workspace it literally dies.
Doing the same in Jetbrains IDE is painful, but possible.
> Almost all of their IDE's can for example integrate with the javascript ecosystem.
That’s mainly because they don’t have a Javascript specific editor. I cannot even syntax highlight groovy files in PhpStorm, even though I’m paying for the full pack.
But I think that is literally my only gripe with Jetbrains :)
Re:Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code
by forsakenharmony on Sunday March 07, 2021 @11:49PM
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> That’s mainly because they don’t have a Javascript specific editor.
I guess Webstorm doesn't exist in your book?
I'm pretty sure the reason is that you might want to use the same ide for backend and frontend (e.g. GoLand, PyStorm,...)
IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate + PHP (and other) Plugin doesn't work?
Re:Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code
by KptMarchewa on Saturday March 06, 2021 @07:02PM
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Not to their other ides, just for Intellij.
I think you're making a mistake here. Essentially behind the scenes there's one jetbrains IDE. This IDE is a single platform that can take plugins and code in any language and be customizable to your hearts content.
ON the surface however Jetbrains doesn't exactly release this IDE to the public. They deliver different configurations and different defaults on TOP of this IDE, then they lock it down a little and ship each one of these profiles under a different name. All these IDE's are basically different bundles of plugins running on the exact same core platform.
That's why CLion is only a couple years old and still really good. It's because all Jetbrains needed to develop was a plugin and shove it into an existing ecosystem.
This is no different then Vscode when you think about it. Both are coding platforms that can be plugged with new features, it's just that jetbrains locks some of this customization down and sells their IDEs with bundles of plugins that offers a better core experience.
What makes Jetbrains better is this focused and higher quality bundle of features that feels cohesive. What makes jetbrains worse is that this central platform they're developing for is bloated. Everything is slow, takes forever and can lock up.
If Jetbrains just did something to speed up the platform then pretty much IMO it beats anything Vscode has to offer.