Re:Student passes 3 classes in 4 years, ranks near top half ...
by WalterBright on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:24PM
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It's the summary. You'll need better evidence than that.
Re:Student passes 3 classes in 4 years, ranks near top half ...
by monocasa on Friday March 05, 2021 @08:41PM
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Go read more than that
> States that more aggressively implemented the CCSS registered larger gains from 2009-2013. That’s an optimistic finding for CCSS.
Even they find that clear data that states implementing CCSS have better outcomes, only a few years after implementation, that correlates with how aggressively CCSS was rolled out in the state.
I provided this source because they're ideologically opposed to CCSS, but even they admit that there's a positive effect early in the roll out. The rest is them bending over backwards trying to explain why their own data doesn't actually matter. In short I cited them because it's one of the best cases for the antithesis of my argument and it still proves what I'm saying.
Re:Student passes 3 classes in 4 years, ranks near top half ...
by WalterBright on Friday March 05, 2021 @09:19PM
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It's commendable that you'd cite an article that is biased against your viewpoint. But I still don't find the evidence compelling that there's been decades of improvement in math education results. They've been coming up with new "research based" techniques since what, 1960?
That's the context of your cherry picked sentence, that even a foundation expecting no benefits found them, and is left with trying to downplay those findings.
And that's to be expected, a long tail of continued improvements as the students get older and the benefits of increased numeracy in higher math pay off, and as we get better at communicating to K-5 teachers (who, frankly probably didn't have the best math background either) start grasping the meta point of what's being taught.