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Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by gzer0 on Friday March 05, 2021 @12:52PM (#26359707)
Good points and summary. Adding on to that, the following was from the abstract about 2 sentences in. Seems like some users do enjoy jumping straight to the comments!

* Political orientation was correctly classified in 72% of liberal–conservative face pairs, remarkably better than chance (50%), human accuracy (55%), or one afforded by a 100-item personality questionnaire (66%).

* Accuracy was similar across countries (the U.S., Canada, and the UK), environments (Facebook and dating websites), and when comparing faces across samples.

* Accuracy remained high (69%) even when controlling for age, gender, and ethnicity.

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by hntrader on Friday March 05, 2021 @01:46PM (#26360355)
"controlling for ... ethnicity"

There's significant signal buried in here that is likely not controlled for, depending on how granular their controls are.

White-German and White-Italian are much more (10-13 percent) likely to be conservative leaning than White-Irish or White-British.

Hispanic-Cuban are more likely to be conservative leaning than Hispanic-Mexican.

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by usaar333 on Friday March 05, 2021 @04:19PM (#26362261)
Their section about demographics controls in the paper was really unclear (kinda surprised you can get this published being so vague).

What does a final number with the controls active even mean? I doubt accuracy was identical within each grouping they used. Even the groupings are really unclear in the paper (at most 4 ethnic groups,no idea how they did age, etc.)

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by timkam on Friday March 05, 2021 @03:27PM (#26361618)
Now, what would be interesting is to build a model that accounts for this "knowledge" and see if it can beat the out-of-the-box classifier :-) I'd assume it can, and the question is: how far can a bit of manual modeling bring us?
Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by colonelcanoe on Friday March 05, 2021 @11:02PM (#26365074)
Maybe they asked the wrong questions, but I think that's the point of the questionnaire model.
Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by timkam on Saturday March 06, 2021 @06:36AM (#26366751)
Sure, but I thought was that building an ML model that considers the questionnaire results (or existing similar findings) would be a very interesting next step.
Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by xxpor on Friday March 05, 2021 @02:43PM (#26361156)
In the US or generally?
Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by cies on Friday March 05, 2021 @05:10PM (#26362800)
The words conservative and liberal have wildly other meanings outside of the US. Even in the US they are not well agreed upon (especially the definitions, people seem to know which one to pick though when they have to).
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Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by dang on Saturday March 06, 2021 @01:23AM (#26365615)
Please do not do ideological flamewar on HN. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by sanp on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:49PM (#26365003)
> Responsibility: your job to feed and cloth yourself

Unless you are a farmer

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by LordDragonfang on Friday March 05, 2021 @10:52PM (#26365025)
Every single one of those "principles" listed is rhetorical, not factually based on policy.

I don't know how the GOP still manages to run on a platform of "balanced budgets" when they have consistently running higher deficits than the Democrats for nearly that past 100 years.

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Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by dang on Saturday March 06, 2021 @01:23AM (#26365616)
Please do not do ideological flamewar on HN. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by unanswered on Saturday March 06, 2021 @02:26AM (#26365818)
I admit that I am impressed that the comment id of your reply to parent comment is smaller than the comment id of this comment. I didn't think you had it in you.
Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by dang on Sunday March 07, 2021 @02:51PM (#26379131)
It took me a while to figure out what you meant by this, but I think(?) I get it now—in which case, I'm glad you noticed the attempt to be even-handed. When I post twin scoldings like that, though, what's significant is the pox on both flamewar houses. You shouldn't attach any significance to which of the two got posted first because that's entirely random.

I don't especially try to find opposing belligerents to moderate when a fight breaks out; that would just be a different form of bias. But it's handy when it comes up naturally, because it neutralizes the "you're only doing this because you disagree with me" objection which usually comes up, and which I'm always bracing myself for, otherwise.

I think this reaction must be biologically rooted somehow, because it's so common, and recognizably the same "no fair!" reaction that one can observe in small children and sometimes in animals. That's not a criticism, and certainly not a personal criticism—my point is that we all have this.

Re:Facial recognition can predict person’s political orienta... by hntrader on Friday March 05, 2021 @03:15PM (#26361471)
In the US