Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by willtim on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:02AM
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I have it set to "Very High" and have their normalisation turned off. I can provide samples demonstrating distortion and break-up; the waveforms even look completely different visually. It's even audible over non-audiophile headphones. On my HD800S it's unlistenable. I have no idea what they are doing to the sound, but I have found many recordings that sound awful on both Android and Windows.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by svantana on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:15AM
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That sounds more like error on the label's/uploader's behalf? Most often that should be the same across platforms, including lossless. I've heard cd skips, vinyl crackle and tape warble on spotify so I know what you mean.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by raverbashing on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:04AM
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Then I'd think it's the "audio watermarking" some companies insist on using. Because for some rights holders, you're paying for their product but f-you nonetheless.
Edit: watermarking not fingerprinting
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by xnx on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:11AM
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Fingerprinting or watermarking?
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by jakub_g on Thursday March 04, 2021 @02:18PM
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Might be related:
https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermar...
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by SSLy on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:10AM
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Would you be able to share specific passages? The neighbour commenter mentioned fingerprinting, it might be that or bad master.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by willtim on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:16AM
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Sure, one example is the first minute opening of Osmo Vanska's Mahler 5. The big crescendo between 40-45 seconds sounds particularly bad, lots of break-up and distortion. Sounds fantastic on the CD.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by SonOfLilit on Thursday March 04, 2021 @02:42PM
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Links:
https://open.spotify.com/track/2in7T2TWPkJW6Z6Ih9P4Ew?si=7e6...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcl20dgHSM
Sounds identical (and very noisy) on Spotify and Youtube on my very crappy laptop speakers. I don't own the CD.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by willtim on Friday March 05, 2021 @04:55AM
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This reply might be interesting: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26354999
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by kingosticks on Thursday March 04, 2021 @11:21AM
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This https://open.spotify.com/album/1V5q6IEheMUjOTYJar4f54 ? It sounds fine to me but the exact copy I get might well be different to you if we are in different regions.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by kingosticks on Thursday March 04, 2021 @07:06PM
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The Spotify version sounds identical to the tidal "hifi" version (to me). I'm actually pretty curious now what this amazing CD version sounds like!
I'm currently on a Tidal free trial but I won't be moving from Spotify when it's up. I personally can't tell the difference. Maybe I'm half deaf but ignorence is bliss.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by willtim on Friday March 05, 2021 @04:56AM
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I've uploaded a small example, a small clip taken from the CD followed by the same clip captured from Spotify: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1F3NvOpqcMfvNSmyyvbgfUlV6XMO...
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by kingosticks on Friday March 05, 2021 @07:45AM
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Cool, thanks! I had a go at a comparison. This is Spotify ("Very high" and volume normalization disabled), then Tidal ("HiFi") and then yours (CD then Spotify). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Stns23J5aRoj9EeZBVKrX35Cxfh...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rAITjrK39fiJYOT53ghq9DbC-e4...
If it's helpful for you, the code 'LIDLMUSIC' gives a free 6-month Tidal trial. It might be UK specific I have no idea.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by willtim on Saturday March 06, 2021 @05:49AM
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Very strange, I can confirm that your Spotify sample does sound much better than my one. Mine sounds identical on Windows and Android though, two very different platforms, so it may indeed be a UK problem. Thank you very much for the code.
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by nr2x on Thursday March 04, 2021 @09:51AM
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That's not high quality: Give me lossless, 24bit master or GTFO! ;-)
Re:Square acquires majority of Tidal in $297M deal
by ganoushoreilly on Thursday March 04, 2021 @10:04AM
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while it doesn't help today, they are in fact looking to do that by Q3, from everything i've seen. I'm holding on to Spotify for now for ease of use, but I too want something better. I didn't like tidal when I used it years ago, though i'm sure they've changed quite a bit.
(not affiliated with spotify and not very pleased with the service in general myself, just saying.)