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Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by troymc on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:01AM (#26328366)
Does axiom.ai respect robots.txt restrictions or something similar (i.e. something specific to axiom.ai)?

The reason I ask is that Joe Arbitrage could sign up for one paid premium account with a SaaS provider, then use that account and axiom.ai bots to provide the SaaS's services to a bunch of Joe Arbitrage customers at a higher price, i.e. customers who don't know about the original SaaS.

Some SaaS providers wouldn't mind and offer APIs to do the same, but others _would_ mind, so it would be nice if there's a way for them to say "Go away" to axiom.ai bots.

Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by yaseer on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:05AM (#26328412)
We aren't looking at robots.txt - but that's a great suggestion. It leads to a bigger point about bad actors.

Unfortunately, people can build bots to do all kinds of bad things - this is something we have seen, considered and taken some steps to mitigate.

Right now, we have a low level query, with follow-up manual inspection, to prevent bad actors. (Shout-out to our YC batchmates who alert us https://beta.useavenue.com/).

For example, we detected bots being used for harassment on social media and stamped it out.

It's possible for us to scale this up for similar 'bad use-cases' like the one you've identified.

Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by offtop5 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:39AM (#26328857)
Why couldn't this guy, or girl just program that directly in JavaScript instead of using this product. I don't see making browser automation easier as something which would enable bad people
Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by yaseer on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @09:51AM (#26329034)
Certainly - we don't enable something to be done that couldn't be done before.

We just make bot-building accessible to more people. Ideally, that means more helpful bots, but it could result in a more bad bots too, if we're not mindful.

Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by offtop5 on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:38AM (#26330788)
Browser automation tends to be fairly easy anyway, I can't imagine anyone who wants to build bad bots only does so due to an no code solution.
Re:Launch HN: Axiom (YC W21) – No-code browser automation a.... by yaseer on Wednesday March 03, 2021 @11:46AM (#26330914)
I think you're right, we just have a responsibility to kick those people off our platform.