an entire website with people saying things about terfs but not a single sentence explaining wtf a terf is, i'm too old for twitter feuds

You could Google it. I was just responding to the request for examples of hate groups running unchecked on Twitter.

Trans-exclusionary radical feminist. So basically feminists that believe the femininity is endangered by the mere existence of male-to-female transgender people.

So basically transphobes that also larp as feminists.

How many of these posts are still up? The problem with "pictures of tweets" is that we can't check whether or not these were moderated. The controversy is not over whether garbage get posted, it's over what happens afterward.

trans women are women. period.

Some people disagree with that attempt to redefine words. This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion, or whether to shut down the thought process with phrases like “period”.

This is highly debatable. In 100 years if an anthropologist was looking at the skeleton of a trans person they would beg to differ. If a doctor was looking at the DNA they would beg to differ.

What does that have to do with anything? The link above is a collection of screenshots of incitement of violence happening on twitter.

a) Against whom or for what reason that incitement is happening if irrelevant.

b) Equating defending a persons right not to receive death threats to supporting their ideology is beyond dangerous.

> What does that have to do with anything?

It's a reminder, more to the point, is it a slur though?

If you are fine with denying someone's existence I am sure you can take whatever is coming to you from very people fighting against you.

> ...incitement of violence

I would disagree with the 'incitement of violence', but to be fair, I don't blame them either, I would have said the same as well.

> If you are fine with denying someone's existence I am sure you can take whatever is coming to you from very people fighting against you.

Calling for people to be killed is never OK. Defending people who call for others to be killed is not OK.

Who said this was 'OK'?

Maybe don't deny the existence of people and perhaps you won't get those responses?

> Who said this was 'OK'?

You're constantly implying that they deserve it with sentences like "Maybe don't deny the existence of people and perhaps you won't get those responses?".

I'm telling you that's being a huge dick because nobody deserves to be told that they should be killed, even if they are massive assholes themselves. And now you're trying to weasel-word your way out of it without admitting that those tweets are wrong, which sure doesn't make it seem like you disagree with them.

Well tweets don't really kill you though do they? They are not directed at anyone, at most it is vented frustration from the oppressed that is trans people.

> tweets don't really kill you

You can say that in response to any hateful tweet. Racism? "tweets don't kill you". Openly advocating for genocide? "tweets don't kill you". Claiming pineapple is a perfectly valid pizza topping? "tweets don't kill you".

Please do not support transphobia.

For the record, I support mainstream trans rights.

I fail to see how evidence of hate and violence coming from trans extremists is transphobic.

Because I think that mainstream trans people are done a great disservice by trans extremists. Do you think trans people benefit from being associated with the kind of tweets on that website? Reasonable trans men and trans women are pushing back on extremist language and calls for violence that are perpetrated in their name.

Only by discussing this can peaceful coexistence be achieved.

You're right when it comes to calls to violence, but I would prefer #DieT*rfs or #T*rfsMustDie instead.

At least then freedom of speech is preserved and are is no calls for violence.

> Only by discussing this can peaceful coexistence be achieved.

Would love to see evidence of this and until then, please go tell that to the exclusionary T*rfs FIRST and NOT trans people fighting against them. Be a trans ally.

This is part of the reason why a sizeable portion of the population sees you as a cult of lunatics.

Lunacy for recognising trans women as women and fighting against people that actively deny trans people's existence?

I'll take that any day.