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Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by idlewords on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:21PM (#26294955)
There is a book you should read, Lost Enlightenment: https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691165851/lo...

The flourishing of Islamic science took place not in Baghdad, but in Central Asia, and it was already in steep decline when al-Ghazali wrote his polemics. The reasons for both the rise and decline of the Central Asian enlightenment are fascinating and complex.

The tl;dr is that these cities (most now ruins) relied on very complicated irrigation systems that required a high degree of technical skill to maintain, and were also quite cosmopolitan places culturally, since they were never Arabized and lay on major trade routes, guaranteeing them exposure to ideas and scholarly texts from India (although interestingly, not so much from China).

Anyway, it's a great book and will put the rise and decline of this period in context for you.

Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by 2Gkashmiri on Sunday February 28, 2021 @12:33PM (#26295091)
thank you. I will be going through this book as early as possible.
Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by selimthegrim on Sunday February 28, 2021 @02:01PM (#26296024)
Nitpick: “...as soon as possible” sounds more natural to native speakers

Ulugh Beg’s observatory was what Ottomans’ short lived one was built to compete with

Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by 2Gkashmiri on Monday March 01, 2021 @11:26AM (#26304397)
urrghh... i was "thinking" of writing "i will be devouring this book as fast as possible" because wink wink torrents but changed the wording because i didn't want to write the "t" word but yeah
Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by idlewords on Sunday February 28, 2021 @03:23PM (#26296708)
What sounds most natural to native speakers is not correcting people's language unasked.
Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by BeetleB on Sunday February 28, 2021 @05:21PM (#26297666)
A lot of people hate being corrected on language, but many welcome it. In my life, I've certainly had my fair share of people come to me upset saying "I've been saying it wrong all this time and you never told me!"

Best not to jump to conclusions about the speaker's wishes.

Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by selimthegrim on Sunday February 28, 2021 @05:15PM (#26297619)
Fair enough, but he and I share a native non-English language, so I thought I was being helpful.
Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by 2Gkashmiri on Monday March 01, 2021 @11:29AM (#26304440)
i often try to keep my language as close to british english but very sometimes there is a slip up. I try to avoid this though
Re:Ismail al-Jazari – the medieval 'Father of Robotics' by selimthegrim on Monday March 01, 2021 @12:35PM (#26305452)
In Urdu the distinction is a little different and probably very seldom arises in the English sense (e.g. jaldi utho vs jaldi se utho when what is meant is like subah sawere (se) utho) so it's not your fault.

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/hindi-urdu-early-to-...