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Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by PragmaticPulp on Thursday February 25, 2021 @01:25PM (#26266221)
The reality is that these manufacturers aren't making their own WiFi chips. They all use the same few WiFi chips from the same few vendors.

There is room for variation in how the products are implemented, but there's no real reason why a consumer router shouldn't be delivering the same high rates unless there was something else weird going on.

Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by bri3d on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:59PM (#26269436)
A lot of WiFi hardware implements a substantial portion of the stack in firmware or driver blobs.

So even "the same few chips" can be manipulated to perform very differently. Stuff like retransmit, frame timing, power/gain control, and even tx/rxchain selection and MIMO configuration are often done in software and can be altered between suppliers. Additionally, vendor drivers often perform very poorly at the higher levels as well - the MAC level (associate/beacon/disassociate), the framing level, scheduling encryption/decryption, keeping track of associated clients, and so on, are also all often handled in software and can be optimized.

Plus, once we reach the router level, we also get into the often abysmal IP stack configuration on consumer-grade routers.

In short, there's a lot that can differ, both in IP-land and in chipset-land. Anyone who's "fixed" an ailing consumer router firmware by reflashing it with something else can understand the IP-land pieces, and a quick read through a driver written on the Linux SoftMAC stack (for example) can really illustrate how much goes on at the driver layer (not to mention firmware).

Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by fest on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:19PM (#26269054)
Vendors provide reference software for their chipsets. More often than not, the software provided by vendor is the bare minimum needed to prove that their hardware sort-of-kind-of works. It is by no means able to achieve the best performance out of a given system.

Source: worked at Ubiquiti (not on networking hardware though).

Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by katbyte on Friday February 26, 2021 @01:42AM (#26271965)
as someone who did windows device drivers a decade ago this so much - i took a example DDK driver and rewrote it entirely and the resulting performance gain was very noticeable. Not to mention at the time on the device side working around hardware bugs to take something from "yea it works" to "it works really really well!"
Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by labcomputer on Thursday February 25, 2021 @05:38PM (#26269233)
It's true they use the same chips, but board layout and connectors become important as you get to higher frequencies. Wifi antennas can be anything from PCB stripline to external whips.
Re:Wi-Fi 6 is designed to reduce congestion from devices by rayiner on Thursday February 25, 2021 @08:47PM (#26270640)
That’s not true. Antenna design for these 5 ghz+ frequencies isn’t trivial at all.