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Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rawtxapp on Monday February 22, 2021 @10:44AM (#26225785)
They also avoid capital gains tax which would be pretty significant. They can use the money to hedge their bets against crypto by buying traditional markets if they wanted.

For house mortgages, there are companies that are "tokenizing" houses on the blockchain, so putting it up collateral would be as simple as depositing that token. That said, I think this is far from becoming reality anytime soon, just because there's lots of legal issues, etc. Nonetheless, the future is pretty exciting!

Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rank0 on Monday February 22, 2021 @11:23AM (#26226293)
I believe that technically, any conversion between crypto assets is still a taxable event. If you want to follow the (silly) rules, you have to pay taxes on your gains once you purchase something using your borrowed stablecoin.
Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rawtxapp on Monday February 22, 2021 @11:50AM (#26226673)
So yes, you'd pay capital gains tax on the DAI that you've borrowed when you transfer it back to USD, but DAI is a stablecoin that's pegged to 1$ and the volumes are pretty high on many exchanges.

Once you include your exchanges fees in your cost basis, you actually lost like 30-40$, so it's a taxable event with capital gains loss.

Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rank0 on Monday February 22, 2021 @12:20PM (#26227141)
Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rawtxapp on Monday February 22, 2021 @12:50PM (#26227644)
This is more applicable to liquidity providers or things like AAVE and compound where your crypto is actually loaned out. With maker, your crypto doesn't move anywhere and isn't loaned out to anyone.

For what it's worth, if you use AAVE or Compound, you also have to declare interest income on what you've earned.

With maker, you'd be responsible for capital gains if it was liquidated because you fell below the 150% minimum ratio.

Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by rank0 on Monday February 22, 2021 @01:11PM (#26227982)
Admittedly, I am not familiar with maker I will have to go take a look.

I guess the difference between me and someone who would use these DeFi apps, is that they are using crypto as a speculative investment (which is fine, I speculate with other assets all the time). But most people do not have a significant portion of their net worth in crypto tokens. For me, it is much cheaper/easier/safer to just get a traditional loan.

Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by hackinthebochs on Monday February 22, 2021 @11:46AM (#26226613)
Presumably the point is to avoid triggering capital gains tax with the low cost basis of your coins by borrowing someone else's coins to make purchases.
Re:Ethereum Isn't Fun Anymore by whimsicalism on Monday February 22, 2021 @11:43AM (#26226570)
AFAIK, this isn't how MakerDAO loans are being treated right now.