Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by effie on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:12PM
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Unfortunately, this argument and its result is not a good guide, because it is vague of what is "intolerant" and easily gets interpreted as fighting fascism with fascism. In order to win, we must become the enemy, because we are better. No thanks.
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Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by wrycoder on Sunday February 21, 2021 @11:26PM
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Popper is clear. He’s not willing to extend tolerance to completely intolerant people.
Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by RhysU on Monday February 22, 2021 @07:37AM
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Suppressing intolerant individuals makes one intolerant. The concept is symmetric whenever cancelation occurs.
Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by gchamonlive on Monday February 22, 2021 @12:16PM
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That is very kantian. If someone came to your door and asked you to point to where your children were so he could murder them, would you tell the truth just because lying is wrong?
Similarly, would you tolerate hate speech that could put your life in jeopardy just because you believe in free speech?
The point I believe is not taking the ideal to its maximum blindly, but clearly defining boundaries you can't cross, even if it meant behaving intolerantly.
Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by effie on Thursday February 25, 2021 @04:50AM
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That part is clear. What is not clear is how does he determine who is intolerant enough to fall in that category. And also, what that proposal of righteous intolerance means. Does he stop listening to them? Does he de-platform them? Does he incite the mob against them?
Re:Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a ser...
by ulisesrmzroche on Monday February 22, 2021 @03:40PM
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No, you’re just being facetious. The problem is that for yall, everything needs to be sacrificed at the altar of free speech, even reading comprehension. This is exactly what Popper is saying: we can’t tolerate the intolerant because they don’t play by the same rules.