Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by sudosysgen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:30PM
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This is a dangerous and wrong assumption. Weather events can have high area. What do you do if a hurricane comes at the same time as high cloud cover?
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What do you do if you have to shut down the nuclear power plant in bad weather for some reason? Build a new one as a backup? There's always a weak link if you want to find one, nuclear, wind or whatever.
> What do you do if you have to shut down the nuclear power plant in bad weather for some reason?
You don’t. If your plant is properly designed, you’re absolutely immune to any extreme weather conditions.
Heck, we have nuclear-powered vehicles sent beyond our galaxy and they’re still working.
Nuclear power is literally the only form of energy we have that can work under virtually all environmental conditions.
Nuclear fission works even in vacuum.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by dismayedjim on Sunday February 21, 2021 @06:53PM
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It doesn't just have to be designed right, it has to be built right. Like Fukishima where the design engineer resigned during construction over how low the sea wall was built. The sister plant which was closer to the epicenter had the proper sea wall and as such it was totally fine despite the higher waves.
The problem with nuclear is we can't have it until we have eliminated corruption. In that industry it can lead to a literal nuclear meltdown.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by sudosysgen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @07:08PM
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You have to make the construction process transparent and verifiable enough and then these issues can be removed. It's not a given, but it certainly is doable.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by epistasis on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:41PM
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You plan for the worst case, same as we do now.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by sudosysgen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:53PM
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Sure, but solar plus wind does not allow the flexibility to plan for the worst case and come out ahead.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by Nasrudith on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:18PM
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Wind across enough longitude is impossible to not exist at all given temperature differentials creating wind and the rotation of the earth. Wind compliments solar beautifully because things cool off at night from the lack of sun making it produce more power then. If the earth no longer rotates across the axis or the sun goes out the lack of power is irrelevant to in that worsr case scenario.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by sudosysgen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @05:15PM
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This is not sufficient. Wind doesn't have to not increase at all, it just has to be down somewhat, or be too high.
you know that after a hurricane it's way harder to restart a nuclear power plant than a wind turbine right?
it's incredible hard to power a nuclear plant if your grid is destroyed. basically you can't start a nuclear power plant with no power at all.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by sudosysgen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @05:17PM
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Nuclear reactors never completely turn off. They have generators that can supply the necessary power to run baseline systems and to restart them at any time.
that is not true, when there are disasters they sometimes get shutdown, to not have another catastrophe.
and even then just "restarting" it, is not as easy as restarting software.
Re:Activists who embrace nuclear power
by tonyedgecombe on Monday February 22, 2021 @04:59AM
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We know from Fukishima that generators fail.