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Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by mckirk on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:11AM (#26213546)
There is the effect of 'electromigration' at least, which causes atoms of conducting materials to be transported over time because of the current (if I understand it correctly). That might be an issue over the long term, especially at the ridiculously small scale of chip manufacturing we've reached now.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by atleta on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:40AM (#26213723)
Not only that, there is also diffusion caused by difference of concentration, which is increased by heat. And you have that concentration difference at the p-n boundaries/junctions in an IC.

Though I'm not sure how much actual damage you'd see in practice, whether the ICs tend to die with intense use before e.g. the capacitors mentioned above.

Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by R0b0t1 on Sunday February 21, 2021 @10:49AM (#26214317)
Takes 100yrs on current processes to break a particularly weak bond wire.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by R0b0t1 on Sunday February 28, 2021 @02:28PM (#26296262)
Sorry, not bond wires. A weak cross section in the metal layer.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by pantalaimon on Sunday February 21, 2021 @10:27AM (#26214114)
But how big of an issue is that really in practice? You still see 20+ years old machines chugging along just fine.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by nitrogen on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:44PM (#26215414)
That's a bit of survivor bias. I used to buy truckloads of old PCs and recycle them when I was a teenager. I initially thought that this old tech was just really built to last, but in reality I was selecting the 1% or less that could survive being shoved around a rat-feces-infested warehouse at freezing temperatures before ending up in my parents' garage, to their dismay. Those survivors seemed to last freaking forever afterward, but again, that's because they were the random fraction that just happened to have that perfect balance of durability.

When I started buying new parts as an adult, the failure rates of e.g. GPUs were pretty disappointing in comparison to the biased expectations I had from those survivor PCs.

Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by bserge on Sunday February 21, 2021 @02:19PM (#26216252)
Haha, I also noticed that used parts that lasted ~2-4 years have a lower failure rate than new ones. All the ones that fail, fail early, and the surviving ones go through a sort of "extended burn-in" so to say.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by megameter on Sunday February 21, 2021 @05:42PM (#26218079)
I have a longstanding habit of buying my laptops refurbished - so, a few months of wear and sometimes a "scratch and dent". To date, every one of them has been a winner on longevity.
Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by bserge on Wednesday February 24, 2021 @01:06PM (#26253296)
Same, only had a problem twice, with a failed USB/audio daughterboard on an Elitebook ($20 replacement) and a failed VRM capacitor on an MXM card (replaced it but the GPU itself failed after a year so I just got a new card, $100).

I'm really sad about new laptops having everything soldered on. If something fails, you either need a good reflow station (and skills) or you have to toss the whole thing, which is insane.

It also makes parts ridiculously expensive, like a system board for a Dell Precision now goes for ~$500 where it used to be under $100. All because the CPU, GPU, VRAM and even RAM are soldered on.

Honestly, I hate where all of this is going. So much for everyone going green.

Re:Nvidia Limits RTX 3060 Hash Rate by jml7c5 on Monday February 22, 2021 @02:06AM (#26221648)
Process size matters, so older computers are less affected.