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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by giomasce on Sunday February 21, 2021 @06:57AM (#26212829)
Most laptops are more or less in the same situation as M1. Maybe they different quantitatively, but not qualitatively: devices do not have (sufficient) specs available and people need to reverse engineer them if you want to run any free OS on them. Yet people want to do that and often manage. Why is M1 different?

What I really would like to see is hardware manufacturers (Apple and anybody else) releasing the specs, so that people are free to do whatever they want with the metal they buy. I might event consider appropriate a legislative intervention in this field.

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by xorcist on Sunday February 21, 2021 @07:43AM (#26213063)
Not all laptops. Regular stock Intel components, for example, have solid Linux support because Intel nowadays hire kernel developers to support them. Some even have upstream drivers before the hardware is even commercially available.
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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by waheoo on Sunday February 21, 2021 @08:01AM (#26213157)
Yup found this remark super weird.

Mac users seem to live under a rock or something.

Got some weird idea that anything not a Mac must be windows like it's the 90s or something.

Both AMD and Intel hardware supports Linux and wouldn't ship without it. NVIDIA is really the only hold out I this space.

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by udp on Sunday February 21, 2021 @08:15AM (#26213217)
Anecdotal counterpoint: I bought a cheap Intel SoC laptop in 2019 thinking it would make a nice ultraportable writing machine. Things that it shipped without Linux support for: the trackpad, wifi, Bluetooth, and disk (eMMC controller). It just about works now with the latest kernel version and some manually compiled drivers, nearly two years later.
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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by coldtea on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:55AM (#26213851)
>Both AMD and Intel hardware supports Linux and wouldn't ship without it. NVIDIA is really the only hold out I this space.

So just the most important graphics vendor huh?

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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by vinay427 on Monday February 22, 2021 @05:05AM (#26222710)
It doesn't matter much for laptops which increasingly seem to depend on Intel/AMD integrated graphics, which are more capable than ever in laptops with more stringent size and power constraints. How many MacBooks sold have discrete graphics cards by any manufacturer? I'd like to see data on this but I couldn't find any relevant statistics after a bit of searching.
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Re:OpenBSD boots multi-user on Apple M1 hardware by giomasce on Sunday February 21, 2021 @08:28AM (#26213292)
And that's great, but there is more in a laptop than Intel components. And you're not always lucky on that side.
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