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Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by jounker on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:46PM (#26210877)
I see plastic bags on the beach. I walk along the creeks nearby, and I see plastic bags and plastic garbage. I go for a hike in the sierras, and I find plastic garbage.

I bike along the roads in town, and I see plastic bags in the gutter. I look down the incline beside the road and there are plastic bags in the trees.

Is the USA as bad as Morocco? No. Is plastic waste a problem? Yes.

Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by shawnz on Sunday February 21, 2021 @03:55AM (#26211975)
Littering/dumping is a much different issue than disposing of your waste through the wrong channel. The problem you are describing isn't because people use the garbage instead of the recycling.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by oblio on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:38AM (#26212146)
If we only had paper bags and such, littering wouldn't be a problem. Single use plastics of any kind need to be banned universally. Pseudo multiple use plastic such as bags needs to be taxed like alcohol and tobacco, through the roof, until alternatives become economically viable.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Sunday February 21, 2021 @05:29AM (#26212374)
How much does a plastic bag cost where you are? Here in Sweden there's a tax on it and a single bag can cost 7 SEK (USD 0.85).
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by oblio on Sunday February 21, 2021 @05:52AM (#26212478)
It's still too low.

A plastic bag can be quite sturdy, it can be transparent so you can easily see what's inside, it's light, it folds well, is resistant to humidity, etc.

If you'd give a plastic bag to someone from the 18th century they'd cherish it.

We need to make it so the average person actually cares about buying a bag.

Something like €2 with a return value of €1. Or anything that makes you treat it like you'd treat, say, a good tennis ball. You wouldn't just throw those away willy-nilly.

And we need to ban the low grade ones completely.

Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by imtringued on Monday February 22, 2021 @08:25AM (#26224201)
>If you'd give a plastic bag to someone from the 18th century they'd cherish it.

Something very similar is happening in north korea.

http://koreabizwire.com/bottled-water-a-symbol-of-wealth-in-...

Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by ricardobayes on Sunday February 21, 2021 @01:06PM (#26215607)
Yes well here in Spain bags are almost automatically handed out. And the cashier is personally offended if you say you don't need the bag.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by DenisM on Sunday February 21, 2021 @01:32PM (#26215823)
We would also have torn handles, pants-staining leaks, groceries spilled across the parking lot, double and triple bagging, and so on. In fact we already have all of these problems thanks to the ham-fisted paper bag laws.

I would be more amenable to the idea if they made a bag that does not get torn (e.g. armor the paper with cotton or bamboo thread), and is leak-resistant (e.g. waxed), but that somehow takes the back seat.

Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by oblio on Sunday February 21, 2021 @02:46PM (#26216464)
Well, to your paragraph: oh, the humanity! Will someone think of petty conveniences?!?

You do know that we're creating country sized plastic patches in the middle of the Pacific, microplastics are everywhere and we're eating them, they're slowly changing us in ways we don't even understand, etc, etc?

Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by Mediterraneo10 on Sunday February 21, 2021 @11:57AM (#26215008)
The amount of plastic bags strewn across the environment in Morocco has drastically declined since new laws against them. There is still progress to be made, but the result has made me a supporter of plastic bag bans.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by JoeAltmaier on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:30AM (#26213660)
Multiply that by 100 truckloads per bag, and you have what goes into the dump. This blow-away trash is unsightly, but addressing it first is kind of the definition of virtue signaling. We end up at "If I don't see the problem, I can pretend it doesn't exist"?
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ... by DenisM on Sunday February 21, 2021 @01:08PM (#26215619)
Where do you live? In the Pacific Northwest I see nothing of the sort, the only nuisance is aluminum beer cans.