Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immediately, say experts

Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by sep_field on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:38PM (#26210839)

Unfortunately, while human trials might in some perfect world be a workable idea, under capitalism we have a perpetual underclass of people who are kept at wages low enough that they would be willing to do almost anything to get a bit more money. So paying people to sacrifice their health turns into another form of abuse that poor people will endure.

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by nine_k on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:43AM (#26211132)

OK, let's require a proof of income above the national average from the applicants. Any better now?

"It sucks to be poor; you can't even sell a piece of your health for a greater good of humankind and some good money. Only the rich folks are entitled to that."

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by sep_field on Sunday February 21, 2021 @01:20AM (#26211300)

The quotation raises an interesting point about equality. Maybe it'd be better to make there be no payment at all, then anyone who wants to participate _purely out of concern for the greater good and for no other reason_ would get an equal chance, and there wouldn't be perverse incentives then.

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by Aicy on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:00AM (#26211995)

How many people are going to volunteer to consume potentially dangerous substances for free?

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by tweetle_beetle on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @02:54PM (#26242050)

Not exactly the same, but as a current example there have been no problems finding volunteers for the new challenge trials for covid vaccines. Some people find genuine pleasure from helping the greater good.

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by sep_field on Sunday February 21, 2021 @04:08AM (#26212034)

We could require that corporate executives trial the substances as part of the approval process for new materials...

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:07AM (#26213509)

Probably the most ethically sound solution. My perception of reality suggests that entire multinationals would flee any country that even murmured about such things.

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by sep_field on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:57AM (#26213874)

I think you are right! And good riddance :)

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by rowanG077 on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:18AM (#26211019)

This is true. There are no clean solutions.

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by sep_field on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:21AM (#26211035)

Howabout ban the use of any packaging material that hasn't been proven safe? Allow human trials by corporate executives that wish to risk their health determining safety?

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Re:Phthalates damage babies' brains and must be banned immed... by nine_k on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:39AM (#26211112)

The question is exactly in it: how do you prove them safe?

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