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Re:Handheld two-way radios for preppers and other curious folks by sobriquet9 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @09:50PM (#26210384)
I played with Meshtastic and was disappointed with range. I did not really expect miracles given LoRa's limited power, but 50 yards with direct line of sight was underwhelming.
Re:Handheld two-way radios for preppers and other curious folks by myself248 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:02PM (#26210687)
That's hardly the protocol's fault though.

When I discovered Meshtastic, I already had some of the Heltec modules around, which are reputed to have the worst RF performance. I tried anyway, and indeed, I had to equip some truly silly antennas to get even a mile of range. (18dBi yagi in my living room, pointed at a parking structure downtown, was able to talk to another node on top of the structure with a 6dBi omni. Just barely.)

I've been pursuing other projects since then, but a quick skim of the meshtastic forum suggests that there are some much better-performing RF modules now. I'll play with those soon enough...

And anyway, there are encodings other than the patent-encumbered LoRa worth considering, too. (The LoRa folks just did a stellar job capturing mindshare lately.) Really, a feature-set identical to the original IM-ME, but with an option to use ham radios to extend the range, is what I want.

Re:Handheld two-way radios for preppers and other curious folks by sobriquet9 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:18PM (#26210760)
I used TTGO modules with omnidirectional antennas.

By now we have very efficient modulation like FT8 and LDPC error-correcting codes, so I think it should be possible to do much better, even within Part 15 limitations.

Re:Handheld two-way radios for preppers and other curious folks by myself248 on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:44AM (#26211137)
Agreed, but I'm not aware of anyone trying to build those into handheld communicators.