Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by malloryerik on Saturday February 20, 2021 @07:59PM
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What about biodegradable plastics? If regular plastics were made illegal or heavily taxed, wouldn't industry quickly come up with biodegradable alternatives?
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Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by donavanm on Saturday February 20, 2021 @10:36PM
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Current biodegradable plastics are an industry smokescreen. The biodegradable portion is generally plant starch used as a binder. The “plastic” is just that, a very stable long lived micro/nano plastic. The big chunks break down, and the plastics continue to move through the environment and bioaccumulate.
The work towards truly biodegrade plastic is generally from the other end; identifying or making organisms that can break down the polymers themselves. Those don’t seem to be commercially viable, and in themselves won’t address environmental plastic pollution.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by jononor on Sunday February 21, 2021 @09:41AM
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Which plastics are you refering to? In a PLA plastic for example (which is derived from lactic acid, derived from startch) there is no distinction between "binder" and "plastic", and there is no starch left in the resulting production.
Granted the biodegradability of many formulations is still far too long and requires unrealistic circumstances to happen in the wild (hot composting for example).
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by johnisgood on Saturday February 20, 2021 @11:04PM
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What about hemp or mushrooms?
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by infogulch on Sunday February 21, 2021 @12:45AM
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We overuse plastic when paper would suffice. But then some worry about cutting down trees for paper. Hemp is a pretty good crop for the natural fibers needed in paper production (and many other things besides) and could replace trees as raw material source for paper.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by barney54 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @08:05PM
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It’s not easy to find good biodegradable alternatives for many types of plastics. See the example of Legos trying to replace their plastic with a more environmentally friendly version. https://www.wsj.com/articles/lego-struggles-to-find-a-plant-...
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by derefr on Saturday February 20, 2021 @08:35PM
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Seems weird to want biodegradable lego, when they’re highly reusable. I’ve never heard of a LEGO brick get so worn out that it had to be thrown away. Making them rot would just decrease their productive multi-generational lifespan.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by endgame on Saturday February 20, 2021 @09:18PM
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... which would increase the ability of the market to absorb new LEGO(R) Bricks! Genius.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by ehnto on Saturday February 20, 2021 @09:20PM
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Everything has the potential to end up in the environment, so we have to consider the full cycle of the product. I think you might underestimate how much LEGO ends up in the bin.
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by DenisM on Saturday February 20, 2021 @09:15PM
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Biodegrading plastic releases CO2, landfill-buried plastic does not.
Apart from that, what problem are you trying to solve with this innovation?
Re:New plant-based plastics can be chemically recycled with ...
by trickstra on Sunday February 21, 2021 @08:06AM
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The problem with plastic is not the CO2, but the fact that we are producing more and more of it and it does not decompose so we now have it in forests, rivers, ocean, fish, drinking water, our bodies... this can't continue, it's not a sustainable path.