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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by gnarbarian on Friday February 19, 2021 @03:32PM (#26197703)
Build distributed systems that can't be taken down. Social media could be built on IPFS and file coin and lib P2P. Protocols that have no ownership or entity to attack via political means. Email already works this way in a sense.
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by sudosysgen on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:20PM (#26198180)
That's simply not profitable. We're a society driven by the profit motive. There is a vanishingly small amount of profit to be made there.
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by gnarbarian on Friday February 19, 2021 @06:18PM (#26199369)
Email itself isn't profitable either, but we pay for things that help us with it like spam blocking and outlook
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by sudosysgen on Friday February 19, 2021 @07:20PM (#26199912)
Sure, but email didn't have to compete with anything before it. And even then today email has turned into a surveillance nightmare, not the ideal of the comment above.
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by cwkoss on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:29PM (#26243829)
Email competed with mail and fax and effectively won.
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by pharmakom on Tuesday February 23, 2021 @05:49PM (#26244057)
I'm not sure it can, given how many failed attempts there have been. I would like to try such a service though.

Email is not a good example because it is controlled by a handful of providers.

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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by viklove on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:05PM (#26198021)
"So how do we do it?"

"Just do it."

It's easy to say that, but it's obviously not working in the real world. You have to create incentive structures that reward the desired behavior.

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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by 908B64B197 on Friday February 19, 2021 @04:20PM (#26198184)
Not only that but such a network would be pretty hard to moderate.

And by moderate I'm not even talking about the content. I mean completely abused by folks who will turn it into a spam/hosting operation.

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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by aabbcc1241 on Saturday February 20, 2021 @05:30AM (#26203148)
What about shareable and forkable blacklist and whitelist for each user to explicitly opt-in?
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Re:I built ByteDance's censorship machine by gnarbarian on Saturday February 20, 2021 @08:56PM (#26210115)
That's how I see it. moderation should be a service on top of the protocol that users can choose themselves. Perhaps even unique for each person built out by input from the user.
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