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Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by Meekro on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:06PM (#26187662)
Texan here, living in a suburb of Houston. This was a really unique week, but not that bad I think. Everything was totally covered in snow Monday through Wednesday, which was super-weird for Texas. My power was only out on Wednesday, 9am-6pm precisely. Pretty sure it was a rolling outage because it died and came back on the hour. Our water comes from a neighborhood well shared by about 10 houses here. That means when we lose power, the pump stops and we have no water. Our heating is natural gas, but lack of electricity to run the fan motors means no heat.

When the power failed, neighbors went door-to-door making sure everyone had enough food, water, and blankets. Some people had indoor fires going and invited others to come and stay warm. One neighbor had a backyard pool and he let us come in with buckets and take back some water for flushing toilets.

Putting aside the power plants (which have been discussed to death), parts of the distribution system were going down all over the place-- lines, transformers, etc. Those who reported 24-48 hour outages were probably victims of this rather than the rolling blackouts. Most of the roads were covered with ice on Monday/Tuesday so safe driving was limited to 15mph. This made it hard for repair crews to get to where they were needed.

Grocery stores had lots of empty shelves, but plenty of food, too. Safely driving to one was the hard part. Again, 15mph is pretty much your limit unless your car has AWD, winter tires, etc. I saw some photos showing huge lines to get into stores, and that was misleading-- it's probably just people waiting for the store to open. Store hours were heavily reduced. The store website might say they'll be open 12pm-5pm, but then not actually open until 12:30. When that happens, people would line up and wait (or wait in their cars). With dangerous road conditions keeping non-desperate shoppers away, I never saw the stores get overcrowded.

Overall, things were pretty okay as far as I saw. I feel like some of the media reports were focusing in on the worst of it and gave readers a very wrong impression of how the average Texan was faring. To be fair, though, it would really suck if you broke a leg or otherwise needed medical care on Monday.

[EDIT] Couple things I forgot to mention- There was another neighbor who had a generator that she was using to run an electric heater and heat up a single room in her house. She invited her neighbors to come and spend the night there if anyone was too cold, but power came back before the night came. Also, we had every faucet in the house dripping water-- this was enough to keep the pipes from freezing. I saw some burst pipes spraying water when I was driving on Monday, but they seemed to be in "abandoned" businesses-- some small auto repair shop or something where no one came in on Monday, so the heat was off and the faucets weren't dripping.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by arenaninja on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:18PM (#26187762)
Also a Texan here, it sounds like things weren't particularly bad for you. My power was out 36+ hours including during the 14-degree weather overnight where we all huddled in a room with the warmest blankets we could find with no electricity. I had pipes burst and I'm looking to rip out carpet that smells moldy because I couldn't air it out, heat it or vacuum it. Internet service was restored recently, maybe 60 hours after it was lost. Everybody I know in the Houston area lost power for at least 36 hours and 2/3rds of us had pipes burst
Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by Meekro on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:35PM (#26187903)
Thank you for sharing your story, and I'm sorry it sucked so bad! Let me just ask one thing-- are you saying that people had faucets on and dripping and the pipes still burst? We have plenty of shallow-buried (or even above-ground) pipes and dripping all the faucets was enough to prevent bursting.
Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by adamjs on Thursday February 18, 2021 @08:13PM (#26188215)
Yes, Texan here, our neighbors had their faucets dripping but lost power/heat for 30+ hours and pipes froze and burst in the ceiling.

Several factors involved—- the pumping stations lost power so water pressure fell to a trickle. Also homes in Texas are not insulated well-enough to withstand the extreme cold and prolonged lack of heating we experienced.

It was somewhat thermodynamics too— their house was a smaller 1-story house, ours was a larger 2-story house and retained heat long enough to weather the freeze before power came back.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by Rapzid on Friday February 19, 2021 @07:57PM (#26200238)
I was dripping a faucet in every room with water, and also making sure the hot water(tankless) lines were getting some movement.

Was super worried after the reports of water supply issues that the pressure would drop and the pipes would freeze while I was sleeping in my 41 degree house :/ Fortunately we are in the lower elevation zone so it never dropped more than a quarter or so(pressure or flow, couldn't tell).

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by arenaninja on Friday February 19, 2021 @10:21AM (#26194083)
Yes several people who had faucets dripping still had pipes burst. Mine were the first to burst and the friend who came to help me out later called me to say his burst later in the day. This is somebody who lived in Indiana for a while and is familiar with freezing temperatures and lives in a newer construction (house built around 2010)

It seems like you lost power around 8 hours and your house didn't lose as much heat as others

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by txlpo78 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:21PM (#26187785)
I’m in Austin and I have to agree. The media and especially social media would have you believe that the literal apocalypse happened this week (if you dare, go read r/Austin and witness how many people are having ragefits insisting they are going to actually die if Adler doesn’t personally restore their power ASAP). This situation has been very bad, especially in terms of property damage (broken pipes etc), but it still has been an easier situation than something like a hurricane or the floods in Houston, yet I don’t see r/Houston turn into a harbinger-of-doom support group whenever a hurricane hits.

I think the fact that this time there is “someone to blame” is really exacerbating the outcry. When a hurricane hits, everyone sort of accepts that Mother Nature is fucking stuff up and rides it out. But this time, everyone seems to be set on being angry at state/city leaders and really wants to make their voices heard.

> Putting aside the power plants (which have been discussed to death), parts of the distribution system were going down all over the place-- lines, transformers, etc. Those who reported 24-48 hour outages were probably victims of this rather than the rolling blackouts.

That’s true for most of the state, but it is worth noting that in Austin, it wasn’t this. The people you are hearing talking about multi-day blackouts (I was one of them) are likely Austinites where the poor state of the city electrical grid meant that they could not do rolling blackouts. They turned power off for many and just left us in the dark for days. And that’s a whole other issue that needs to be addressed, along with all of the ERCOT issues etc.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by wffurr on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:29PM (#26188834)
“They turned the power off for many and just left us in the dark” is hard to reconcile with “Mother Nature is fucking stuff up and rides it out.”

I mean, yeah, Mother Nature rode in and fucked things up pretty good. But it’s been known for years both how to prepare for this and that it’s been needed (see the FERC report about 2011). There’s pretty clearly someone to blame, and it’s the grid operators, regulators, and the politicians and voters that enabled them to cut corners this hard.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by txlpo78 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @09:44PM (#26188952)
Did you misread my comment? I didn’t say this event was due to Mother Nature, and the entire second half is specifically about how the Austin Energy grid is mismanaged and victim to cut corners.
Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by wffurr on Friday February 19, 2021 @12:03PM (#26195167)
I think I did. It was hard to tell if your comment was supportive or not of the people blaming leaders and the grid management.
Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by megaman821 on Thursday February 18, 2021 @10:01PM (#26189092)
Well in Austin they shut off every non-critical circuit for nearly 48 hours. There are still over 40,000 people that haven't had power since Monday. Most of south Austin has no water because of burst water mains.

I think most people are understanding of the fluke weather and wish the infrastructure was better weatherized. The problem is some really horrible leadership at all levels. Austin Energy said the were going to do rolling blackouts, ERCOT told them to shed more power than they anticipated and could not do the blackouts, Austin Energy only communicated this after the fact so no one was able to make preparations for a multi-day blackout. Austin Water saw water demand spike 250% and noticed that their entire reservoir was draining away due to leaks, they put out a boil water notice and then turned off the water 30 minutes later. Like Austin Energy, not giving people a chance to prepare. People are basically begging them to stop putting out vague hopeful statements and give a real assessment of the situation. Also disaster relief has been slow in coming, luckily neighbors have stepped up for each other, but the government getting supplies to the most vulnerable have been terrible. Texas has a disaster every year, it should be good at mobilizing help, but few people were getting the water they needed for their children, insulin, fresh batteries for oxygen pumps or blankets. These are the same supplies that people need during hurricanes so there is really no excuse on why these aren't going out.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by gwoplock on Thursday February 18, 2021 @07:23PM (#26187804)
>Those who reported 24-48 hour outages were probably victims of this rather than the rolling blackouts.

I couldn't find specific instances of Texas load shedding devices having issues. However, there were instances of things like circuit breakers failing open in very cold weather. This was probably another cause of these very long outages.

Re:The Texas power outage is a nation-wide problem by Rapzid on Thursday February 18, 2021 @10:37PM (#26189359)
> Those who reported 24-48 hour outages were probably victims of this rather than the rolling blackouts.

The load shedding requirements were too high to roll the outages. In San Antonio us unlucky lot were just cut off more and more frequently until there was nothing; for days. This was actually confirmed by CPS and ERCOT.

Sounds like you had a charmed disaster; congrats.