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Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by cabalamat on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:28PM (#26172041)
> I absolutely want to ban self-driving cars that behave in ways no human can explain or understand!

Can you explain or understand the algorithms humans use to drive cars?

Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by Nowado on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:41PM (#26172170)
Screw that.

Explain to me step by step how you walk.

Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by askesum on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:48PM (#26172872)
Humans are held responsible if they cause harm to others. If a driver hits a pedestrian on purpose he is charged with murder. Who do you charge if a self-driving car behaves in this way?
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by abiogenesis on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:55PM (#26174931)
Who do you charge when the brakes don't work on your car? When the airbags don't activate? When your rain sensor doesn't work?

Believe it or not, your car is not that primitive when compared to a self-driving one in terms of the number of things it does autonomously.

Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by hippari on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @10:50PM (#26175491)
Isn't it the case that car manufacturers will have to issue a recall on defective models ?
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by abiogenesis on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @11:03PM (#26175601)
Yes, and the same holds for self driving cars. I fail to see the difference.
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by leetcrew on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:02PM (#26173024)
the humans that designed the car? to be clear, computers don't intentionally do anything. if an engineer deliberately programs a car to hit pedestrians for no reason, they would be charged with murder. if the car hits a pedestrian as a result of an engineering mistake, the company would be liable for damages, and if particularly egregious, engineers might face manslaughter charges.
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by askesum on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:29PM (#26173297)
To be clear, that was my point. You can't punish the computer and good luck finding the one to punish for an accident ten years later. But maybe if it's free software...
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by azornathogron on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @08:36PM (#26174380)
Punishing bad driving is - I assume - intended to incentivise better driving.

If a company makes a self-driving car and that car then drives badly, surely the response needs to be to incentivise the company to improve their engineering practices, eg, spend more on testing, or require more levels of review of changes, or whatever other organisational changes they need to make safer cars. You don't need to find an individual person responsible to create that incentive. And if you really do want to find an individual responsible it can easily just be the executives of the company (and the executives are probably pretty easy to find even a decade later).

Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:59PM (#26172992)
Well, you blame the black box algorithm that nobody can predict or understand, and you just call it an "accident".
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by abiogenesis on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @09:56PM (#26174944)
Who would you blame if the algorithm could be printed on paper?
Re:Changes to sharing and viewing news on Facebook in Australia by executive on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:59PM (#26172986)
only if caught