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Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by heavenlyblue on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:22PM (#26170339)
Neither futon nor kotatsu add any vertical space to the room as opposed to having a bed or a table with drawers underneath
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by lhorie on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:49PM (#26170726)
In the context of this discussion (i.e. the suggestion that consumerism is bad from an environmental impact perspective), that'd actually qualify as a feature of futons/kotatsu.
Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by heavenlyblue on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @05:14PM (#26172540)
Using more vertical space means I need a narrower living space which means cities can be more compact.

So I don’t think it would qualify.

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by lhorie on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @06:22PM (#26173226)
Sort of the whole point of a futon is that you put it in the closet during the day so you can reuse the space as your living room. Your bed just takes space that you don't use for 2/3 of the day.

Similarly, kotatsu don't require chairs.

You should see how compact things are in Japan :)

Re:IKEA to discontinue its annual catalog, ending a 70-year run by astrange on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:48PM (#26171532)
Kotatsu does add some space to the room, since it's a table - you keep your legs under it and now you can put stuff on top.