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Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by Retric on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:12PM (#26168721)
We have more choice today, because currently Android and iOS have different models. Break up the App Store and your left with a single model.

What nobody is talking about is Epic could completely avoid the premium their complaining about by using a website for all transactions. Just like the Kindle App or Netflix etc. The only thing they get from this lawsuit is in app micro transactions. As such it’s really a question of business models not consumer choice.

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by issamehh on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:49PM (#26169218)
Reading Apple's policy makes it seem not so simple. Netflix, for example, avoids the cost because it is a subscription service which is specifically excluded from having a cut taken out. I can't speak for Kindle, but when I very recently read over this it was clear that just routing to a site to handle the purchase would not be sufficient to bypass this
Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by judge2020 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:13PM (#26169556)
> which is specifically excluded from having a cut taken out.

Netflix is constantly at odds with Apple. You can't subscribe via the iOS app store and they don't even link to the Netflix website due to Apple's rules and how they want their 30% cut for app store-driven traffic.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/31/netflix-stops-paying-the-a...

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by threeseed on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:33PM (#26170489)
> constantly at odds

Provides an article from 3 years ago during which time the sign-up flow has not changed and Netflix has exploded in growth.

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by judge2020 on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @02:57PM (#26170849)
There doesn't need to be constant news about Netflix changing stuff, they still don't like Apple's rules about it and there are still no links to netflix.com in the app.

> Trying to join Netflix?

>

> You can't sign up for Netflix in the app. We know it's a hassle.

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by mmastrac on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:11PM (#26169535)
And likely Netflix et al were grandfathered in because Apple _couldn't_ strongarm them. If Netflix was invented post AppStore, I'd wager that Apple would have them paying Apple taxes regardless.
Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by yellowapple on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @01:49PM (#26169956)
> What nobody is talking about is Epic could completely avoid the premium their complaining about by using a website for all transactions.

Epic would also need all paid transactions to originate entirely from said website - i.e. there would be no ability for their own apps to even send users to that website. There have been multiple horror stories about app developers trying this exact approach and Apple turning around with "nope, pay up your 30% cut".

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by Retric on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @03:33PM (#26171353)
Yea, you need a login page that’s:

Trying to join _? You can't sign up for _ in the app. We know it's a hassle.

Not:

Trying to join _? click here

But, actually following the acceptable approach and you don’t run into issues.

Re:Epic Games steps up Apple fight with EU antitrust complaint by bluefirebrand on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @12:58PM (#26169346)
> We have more choice today, because currently Android and iOS have different models. Break up the App Store and your left with a single model

What a goofy point of view.

If there are two restaurants in town, and only one grocery store, would you conclude that eating out is better than cooking your own meals because you have two restaurant options instead of just the one grocery store?