1. Sharing is super-confusing. I was trying to organize things for my mom, as well for my wife and I. And you have to create these "organizations". And they makes things really confusing for a variety of reasons. They are a different pricing/SKU. And the UX around them is not good. It's not clear where things are being created a lot of the time, and who may or may not have access. It just was a really bad experience.
2. It was outrageously slow for me. I use Enpass otherwise, and it comes up right away, and searching is relatively fast. But Bitwarden always had this delay. And it was a huge pain point because it wasn't clear immediately if there were just no results, or if I just had to wait a few seconds. And sometimes things would pop up unexpectedly.
So I've continued using Enpass. It has _by far_ been my favorite password manager. It's no open source, but it uses Sqlite and SqlCipher under-the-hood, and I have full control over where it syncs my data to. Sharing is still a problem (mainly because of the architecture decisions - there is no "central server"), but everything else is so great that I'm fine making that tradeoff.
If you're trying to set it up for three users, you'd need to pay for a organization, which starts at $9/month. On the other hand, I believe you could set up two free organizations where you are a member in each, and you add your mom to one and your wife to the other.
https://bitwarden.com/help/article/getting-started-organizat...
https://bitwarden.com/pricing/business/
I don't think it was a particularly difficult process, but I did it on my computer, and once it was all figured out, helped my spouse with the rest. I don't find the sharing process confusing. You click Share on a saved password, choose the organization, and then you choose the collection you put it in (which can simply be Default.)
I haven't found BitWarden to be slow, but my laptop is a Ryzen 7 4800H and my old phone was a Pixel 3, so neither are slouches. Not sure how many records I have but I'd estimate about 500.
I'd be a bit afraid of this. Secure key derivation takes time. Remember, you want to be able to defend against people with a few GPUs or the ability to configure a cheap FPGA at least and the ability to build custom ASICs or employ a GPU botnet at worst. Taking ~5 seconds to derive your key securely on your phone is a near inevitability.
I definitely don't trust LastPass with my information, definitely don't trust that it will actually work in my browser, and if you export your lastpass vault bitwarden imported it perfectly.
Take my advice at your own risk of course, I had both for a few months before I was confident it was safe to close my lastpass account.
Interesting thing: I just now remembered to delete my LastPass account, but the delete account flow breaks totally. Just end up in a modal without any content in it, both Firefox and Chrome.
I'm wondering if they are even deliberately blocking deleting accounts for damage mitigation?
I think the issue before was w/ multi-line nodes and special characters.
For reference, I imported the data by pasting in the lastpass export rather than using the .csv import.
Good Luck!
- 1Password's TOTP support is much better. 1Password autofills the code and the password, Bitwarden only copies the code. 1Password will scan pages for QR codes.
- They finally implemented encrypted backups but they half-assed it. From https://bitwarden.com/help/article/encrypted-export/:
> Warning
> Rotating your account’s encryption key will render an Encrypted Export impossible to decrypt. If you rotate your account encryption key, replace the old backup with one that uses the new encryption key.
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25868856
That said, I'm a Bitwarden user because I don't it's that bad and I don't think 1Password is worth 3.6 times as much.
- Fails to fill out passwords around 2% of the time (Firefox account for example)
- Sometimes I mash the "CMD+/" shortcut and nothing happens. It's very unstable.
- Password generator is rigid. I have to edit the generated password about 90% of the time to add capital letters, numbers etc. I made a comment a while back on how we should be using HTML data attrs on the password field to hint how a password should look for password generators. Perfect password every time.
- Can't remove a single item from the trash. It's empty all or nothing.
- The shift to the web. Introduction of Keepass X extension whilst supporting the legacy. No feature parity between them. It's a bit of a mess to be honest.
Some systems are already using it -- e.g. I know that Apple's generate-password helper reads it, and I believe that 1Password also does.
For a while, I had the horrible practice of using the same username and very simple password everywhere. Eventually my "one true password" became slightly more complex, but I still had some bad habits. I eventually started letting Chrome save all my passwords except for, of course, my Google one.
I switched to LastPass (free) for a while. (My memory of this is a bit fuzzy.) At some point I wanted to switch to something less, eh... corporate? So I got BitWarden. I really like the password generator, and use it exclusively now. (There was a web site I used to use for this, but of course this is much more convenient.)
It was a bit rocky in the earlier days. Integration with the browser on Android could sometimes be a little shaky. It's still not perfect, but I don't have good comparisons there. I use Firefox on Android, Windows and Linux. It works really well on the desktop and mostly really well on Android, though with the browser it's unreliable if you rely on the Android app, so I install the Firefox Add-On for BitWarden, and that works reliably.
My spouse set up her own account, and we share some of our important passwords via a free organization. This is a great feature and gives us both some peace of mind if we were ever required to get into each other's accounts. We also paid the $10/year so she could see reports on her passwords, and get rid of breached, insecure and duplicate passwords. She has adapted readily to using the password manager though she mostly just uses it on the computer, not on the phone.
Overall we are very happy with it and I believe it's an excellent option. I cannot, however, compare it to 1Password.
About UX: between BitWarden and 1Password, I haven't seen any actually compelling discussion of the two password managers' UX that goes beyond just the typical way in which anonymous internet commenters enthusiastically assert preferences. They both do their jobs well enough the vast majority of the time. If you're genuinely in doubt about the UX, try Bitwarden for free and then try 1Password if you can't stand Bitwarden's UX.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-password-man...