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Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by aborsy on Monday February 15, 2021 @11:55PM (#26151079)
I have been interested in using openBSD beyond in my router. Is it usable as a daily driver?
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by mrweasel on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:19AM (#26151960)
That very much depends on what you do. All the basics is not an issue, web browsing, email and so on is perfectly fine.

All of the development tools I need are in the ports tree, but it may depend on the languages you want. There's currently no .Net port for instance. If you want to do 3D animation or AI related work, then you're going to have a bad time.

I found OpenBSD to be a slower than Linux, but on modern hardware, that might not be as much of an issue as on my crappy old laptop.

Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by morganvachon on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @07:34AM (#26153283)
> I found OpenBSD to be a slower than Linux, but on modern hardware, that might not be as much of an issue as on my crappy old laptop.

In my experience over the years, this is a bit of a reverse bell curve. For very very old hardware (Pentium III era and first/second gen Intel Atom machines) OpenBSD is actually faster than Linux. I currently have a Atom N450 based netbook and OpenBSD is the only OS that is usable on it, even including its originally shipped Windows 7.

Anything from the early Core2 days up through the second and third generation Core i-series (Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge) tends to run much slower in OpenBSD vs Linux. After that, the curve swings upward again; I've noticed practically no difference in day to day tasks between the two OSes on modern (Skylake+ and AMD Ryzen) hardware, to the point that running Xfce on both OSes on a Ryzen 5 3600 based system were pretty much indistinguishable.

Of course there are obvious outliers; some tasks are heavily driver dependent and OpenBSD's drivers always lag behind Linux and Windows as there is no commercial interest in OpenBSD as a major OS.

Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by dbtc on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @12:10AM (#26151141)
Yes definitely, with supported hardware.

This blog was useful for me: https://www.c0ffee.net/blog/openbsd-on-a-laptop/#multimedia

and https://www.openbsd.org/faq/

Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by amself on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @01:19AM (#26151441)
I tried setting it up a few times and gave up after having to swap hard drives twice for BIOS to load (?!). Maybe I will try again after reading these. Thanks! I also ran FreeBSD for some time but I couldn't get graphics to work right on my OPTIMUS laptop.
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by arp242 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @01:44AM (#26151556)
Depends on your usage. The biggest problem for me is the lack of Widevine and inability to play DRM media. There are also some other things that aren't easily available such as Docker or Vagrant; I don't really use these things myself, but sometimes it's handy to be able to run them for various reasons from time to time (for example I've seen projects where the test suite assumes Docker availability, and replicating that outside of Docker for just one patch isn't really a good time investment: easier to just run Docker).
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by lmm on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @02:53AM (#26151830)
On a desktop it works-ish. Last time I looked there wasn't much in the way of accelerated graphics drivers, so multimedia use wasn't very practical.
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by fogihujy on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @02:21AM (#26151685)
It's quite doable, but it does have a tendency to require more tinkering than your average Linux desktop, and it does set some specific requirements in regards to hardware.

If you have some spare time and a spare laptop, I say go for it.

Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by ptidhomme on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @03:03AM (#26151881)
I disagree about the tinkering, I've found it very straightforward to get a decent desktop experience. The only drawback is that it's perceptibly slower than Linux.
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by fogihujy on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @04:00AM (#26152192)
Your mileage may vary, depending on what you compare with. It's definitely not hard, but setting up OpenBSD does require more work compared to setting up something like Ubuntu or Linux Mint.
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by fluffything on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @02:55AM (#26151839)
Can you do screen sharing ?
Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by aruggirello on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @04:39PM (#26159120)
I don't know if Teamviewer or Anydesk support *BSD, but you can always use xpra - though they say "All BSD variants should work, but are not regularly tested." so you might find a couple hiccups maybe.

I've found xpra --shadow to be almost on par with Anydesk on Linux - even passing through an ssh proxy. But obviously that might depend on GPU encoding which might not always be available on BSD.

Re:What security does a default OpenBSD installation offer? by fluffything on Wednesday February 17, 2021 @04:22AM (#26164416)
I meant screen sharing on Teams, webex, zoom, etc