Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by namibj on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:22AM
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How do you manage to freeze natural gas pipelines? It isn't even liquid at the near-surface air low-temperature record (-89.2 C/-128.6 F).
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Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by fuzzfactor on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:50AM
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Crude natural gas is usually saturated with water downhole at warm temperatures and high pressures, some of which condenses as it is produced at the surface.
At many points in a pipeline further water removal can be essential too.
Even when not liquefied like LPG, when passing through a restriction valve or orifice, there is still additional cooling due to the product acting a bit like a refigerant.
The water content may be small but the quantity of cold gas passing through a narrow point which is well below 0C eventually can build up kilos of ice and block the flow until the ambient temperature rises enough to open it back up.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by pfdietz on Monday February 15, 2021 @09:36PM
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And you get can get clathrates (combinations of methane/ethane/propane and water).
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by dmurray on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:53AM
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Methane can't realistically freeze in the pipes, but unrefined natural gas has plenty of impurities which can. Note they're talking about "pipelines and wells" freezing in a gas production context, not residential gas mains.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by namibj on Monday February 15, 2021 @04:36AM
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Understandable. As long as it remains available, the price hike seems to incentivize operators to expend energy on manually thawing them. I'm assuming they could rig up makeshift natural gas burners/heat lamps to keep critical sections above freezing.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by sneak on Monday February 15, 2021 @06:03AM
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I feel like this reads like the first 60 seconds of intro to one of those youtube disaster-recounting videos.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by genewitch on Monday February 15, 2021 @06:35AM
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https://www.youtube.com/user/USCSB being one of said channels. I don't want to say in enjoy their videos due to the content, but for being so simple they convey a great deal of information in a way that few other media have done in decades.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by sneak on Monday February 15, 2021 @10:17AM
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The one I was thinking of is https://youtube.com/c/FascinatingHorror - they aren't quite as in depth but cover a lot of different events.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by namibj on Monday February 15, 2021 @11:05AM
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Thanks for the link.
And yes, my wording seemed weird, even to me.
Re:Ercot nearly at capacity for Texas power grid
by DavidPeiffer on Monday February 15, 2021 @08:35AM
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I've definitely watched over 20 hours of their content. It's very well produced, very approachable and easy to understand. I'm pleasantly surprised at how good of a resource their videos are. I had lower expectations with them being part of the federal government.