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Re:How the Hell Do You Govern in a Complex World by ctdonath on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:11PM (#26138984)
The Founding Fathers intended the elimination of slavery, and banned it to a meaningful degree during establishment of the new nation, but had to compromise lest the fragile Union break before it could form.

Slavery eventually eliminated (before most other nations), at tremendous cost not appreciated by many benefiting from that payment.

Re:How the Hell Do You Govern in a Complex World by imbnwa on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:39PM (#26139167)
France, Spain, and England all abolished slavery in their colonies at least 30 years before the American Civil War.
Re:How the Hell Do You Govern in a Complex World by true_religion on Monday February 15, 2021 @06:42AM (#26141800)
Slavery in colonies is functionally different from American slavery.

Colonial slavery oppressed conquered people's on their local soil where they were the majority. This is hard to keep up for a global power constantly at war with its neighbors.

American slavery oppressed ethnic minorities ripped from their homeland and taken to a different continent. Slaves had a harder time coordinating rebellions as they were not a single conquered peoples, and were in the minority so couldn't count on winning battles of attrition.

American slavery, like the Roman version it was patterned against, could have continued for hundreds of years if not for the Civil War.

Colonial slavery though was a lost battle from the start. Colonial powers needed to develop their colonies, but the moment you do that you increase the chance of successful rebelion. The only way to defuse it is to reduce the oppression.

Re:How the Hell Do You Govern in a Complex World by dragonwriter on Sunday February 14, 2021 @11:48PM (#26139207)
> The Founding Fathers intended the elimination of slavery

The Founding Fathers didn't have a shared opinion on the issue, and the only concrete action they jointly took was directly protect it and to bake in extra political power for slavers.

> but had to compromise lest the fragile Union break before it could form

The people those founding fathers who wanted slavery eventually eliminated had to compromise with were also founding fathers.