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Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by refurb on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:14PM (#26137213)
How is it reasonable in the least to expect a big house with a garage and a yard in one of the most expensive places in the country?

Of course it’s going to cost a crazy amount of money. It’s not even an option in Manhattan, but plenty of people would disagree it “sucks” there.

Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by kortilla on Monday February 15, 2021 @01:16AM (#26139680)
> It’s not even an option in Manhattan, but plenty of people would disagree it “sucks” there.

In Manhattan thats the expectation. You’re in a super dense area filled with high rises. Life is good for apartment dwelling.

In Mountain View, you’re in a suburb that’s mostly single family homes that you’re constantly reminded you won’t ever be able to afford.

> How is it reasonable in the least to expect a big house with a garage and a yard

That’s the lifestyle of the peninsula. It’s reasonable to expect the lifestyle you are constantly surrounded by. Back to the Manhattan analogy, $250k absolutely would not be considered good money if it could not afford you the ability to live like the average property owner.

The Bay Area is a stark contrast between the people lucky enough to have purchased 10+ years ago + some FAANGs and everyone else. Everyone else is stuck in a terrible apartment telling themselves stories about how they’ll get out after making their money or whatever.

It’s nice living in a walkable apartment with no car in Manhattan (or nyc in general). It’s dreary AF on the peninsula.

Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by refurb on Monday February 15, 2021 @04:05AM (#26140707)
It’s reasonable to expect the lifestyle you are constantly surrounded by.

No, it's not. Should you be able to afford a home in Beverley Hills? Should you be able to afford a home in San Francisco itself? 40 years ago that was the norm.

Re:“Location-Based Pay” – Who are we to complain? by kortilla on Monday February 15, 2021 @05:16AM (#26141199)
> No, it's not.

Yes, it is. The norm in cities in the US until very recently was that you could get a middle class job, buy a small home, raise a family, etc. This phenomenon of only being able to lick the boots of the homeowners near the good jobs is relative new.

> able to afford a home in Beverley Hills

We’re talking about the entire Bay Area, not a specific suburb. Anywhere within an hour commute of Google HQ is like this.

> Should you be able to afford a home in San Francisco itself? 40 years ago that was the norm.

Yes. It was the norm. Then the nimby dickheads stepped in and pulled up the ladder behind them by blocking everything they could and pushed through a very favorable proposition to existing homeowners (prop 13).

Your opinion might be that it’s fine to block out an entire generation from the bay and rent seek. I personally think that’s a shitty drag on society propped up by government created housing scarcity.