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Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by aviraldg on Sunday February 14, 2021 @02:40PM (#26135481)
Why are we trying to maximize human lives saved as opposed to human life-years saved?
Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by henrikschroder on Sunday February 14, 2021 @02:55PM (#26135641)
Generously assuming people live to 90, saving a 30yo who would have died of covid saves 60 life-years, while saving a 70yo saves 20 life-years, i.e. 3x more.

But the risk of dying is around 50x higher[1] for a 70yo compared to a 30y, which means you have to vaccinate ~15x as many 30yos as 70yos to save the same amount of life-years.

So vaccinating the elderly first both saves lives and more life-years.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/investi...

Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by dragonwriter on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:38PM (#26136044)
> Generously assuming people live to 90, saving a 30yo who would have died of covid saves 60 life-years, while saving a 70yo saves 20 life-years, i.e. 3x more.

This makes the fallacious assumption that if life expectance at age X is n years, life expectancy at age X+k is n-k years.

This is very much not true. See, e.g., https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Using actual life expectancy by age makes the number of life years saved at age 70 much closer to that at age 30.

Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by s1artibartfast on Sunday February 14, 2021 @04:14PM (#26136317)
Overall good point. Much closer but still significantly different. The life expectancy is 14 years vs 48
Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by henrikschroder on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:15PM (#26137224)
> The life expectancy is 14 years vs 48

...which is still a factor of ~3x, which means my napkin math wasn't too shabby, which means this tangent was completely irrelevant, because my main point is unchanged.

Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by fastball on Sunday February 14, 2021 @07:58PM (#26137849)
But you're giving equal weight to a year lived in the prime of someone's life vs. a year lived in a care home, which might not be a reasonable way to calculate it.
Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by s1artibartfast on Sunday February 14, 2021 @10:16PM (#26138660)
fair enough. "closer" but still significantly different is a support for your position.
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Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by dang on Monday February 15, 2021 @03:55PM (#26147241)
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Re:Half Doses of Moderna Vaccine Produce Neutralizing Antibo... by imwillofficial on Sunday February 14, 2021 @03:06PM (#26135743)
Is name calling against HM rules?