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Re:Statement on New York Times Article by Tenoke on Saturday February 13, 2021 @09:22PM (#26129098)
The sad part is, despite so many bad takes, ideology pushing, and hatchet jobs The NYT overall still produces comparably some of the best journalistic content out there.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by throwmtlsPhD on Saturday February 13, 2021 @09:39PM (#26129183)
Can I suggest an alternative?

The pieces of the NYT that you think are “some of the best journalistic context out there” might be in area that you are less well read than you believe yourself to be.

I know this has been true for me many times.

Try reading what someone who disagree with the NYT would consider a high quality alternative.

Re:Statement on New York Times Article by Tenoke on Saturday February 13, 2021 @09:53PM (#26129231)
I'm aware of Gell-Mann Amnesia and read from a variety of sources.

This was really a comment on how most journalism is even worse. The NYT does occasionally have pieces where I know about the topic and their representation goes into details that others aren't likely to. Those are, however, not a large percentage of their output.

Re:Statement on New York Times Article by outlace on Saturday February 13, 2021 @11:26PM (#26129678)
thanks for referencing Gell-Mann Amnesia. Never heard of it before but after looking it up it is quite compelling.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by Noumenon72 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @08:38AM (#26132288)
I've known about Gell-Mann amnesia for years but never experienced the feeling of 'this coverage of a thing I know is terrible', even in this piece. Maybe I don't know much about anything, or maybe I'm a conflict theorist, not a mistake theorist, so when I see them get things wrong like this, I assume it was on purpose.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by tensor on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:19AM (#26129904)
It's pretty hard to find high quality alternatives. There is the wall street journal, maybe a few others, but not many. I personally read a few high quality news sources and science journals.

Inexplicably many here seem to think that random blog posts are somehow remotely equivalent. I value opinion at zero, and trust a random person to do quality research at about zero too. Trust is earned.

When random internet opinion becomes "news" I suppose we really are in a post truth world.

Re:Statement on New York Times Article by qPM9l3XJrF on Sunday February 14, 2021 @01:06AM (#26130080)
I've come to respect The Economist and The Financial Times. Their articles don't go viral as much--I suspect because they aren't as optimized for virality ;-)
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by afiori on Sunday February 14, 2021 @01:24AM (#26130161)
Ironically Scott Alexander has a couple of good posts about this topic

a discussion on how big institutions that are telling you the truth are competing both to keep their position and tell you the truth with a focus on medicine

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/webmd-and-the-tragedy-...

A more poetic version discussing the concept in general.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

Re:Statement on New York Times Article by jcranmer on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:52AM (#26130034)
Washington Post? It's long been essentially the biggest rival to the NYT in terms of national political coverage, and my opinion is that as of late, it's been higher quality than the NYT.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by mrgordon on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:29AM (#26129947)
The WSJ has much worse editors than the NYTimes. They really allow a lot of bias.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by kortilla on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:37AM (#26129975)
So does the NYT. The bias of the times just happens to be really well aligned with mainstream liberals in the US so it’s much harder to notice if you’re in that camp.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by bpodgursky on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:06AM (#26129855)
The WSJ produces just as much good content, and you can subscribe there without inadvertently funding rag hit pieces like this.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by mrgordon on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:31AM (#26129950)
The WSJ has a ton of dubious articles. The Opinion pieces are garbage compared to the average one in the Times although of course both have misses
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by ardy42 on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:53AM (#26130039)
> The WSJ has a ton of dubious articles. The Opinion pieces are garbage compared to the average one in the Times although of course both have misses

I agree with you on that. I subscribed to both for awhile, but dropped the WSJ because it had less international content, its articles tended to lack background (great if you're following a story closely, not so great if you haven't), and its opinion section was utterly boring and predictable.

Re:Statement on New York Times Article by bpodgursky on Sunday February 14, 2021 @12:41AM (#26129994)
The opinion pieces are contained to the opinion section though. (One) problem with the NYTimes is that that is no longer true.
Re:Statement on New York Times Article by colinmhayes on Sunday February 14, 2021 @02:02AM (#26130288)
If you don't think the journal has rag hit pieces I don't know what to say other than you obviously haven't read many articles or practically any opinion pieces from them.