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Re:The Kotlin Foundation by tadfisher on Saturday February 13, 2021 @01:05PM (#26125306)
Scala, Clojure, and Groovy are all mature languages that haven't gone anywhere. No one has a goal of replacing Java, and they all benefit from improvements to the JVM.
Re:The Kotlin Foundation by pjmlp on Saturday February 13, 2021 @03:33PM (#26126578)
Mere blips on the Java eco-system, why do you think Typesafe has pivoted into Lightbend and now also does Java projects?

Gradle and Google choosing it for Android are the only things that keeps Groovy still relevant.

As for Clojure, it is its own thing, plugging into the host platforms.

Re:The Kotlin Foundation by blandflakes on Saturday February 13, 2021 @10:43PM (#26129461)
Of the JVM languages, AFAIK only Kotlin is making a serious push to get off the JVM using something like LLVM. Interesting idea, though I wonder how long they can preserve compatibility between JVM and native targets.

Scala native doesn't feel like it has the same impact, perhaps in part due to a lack of momentum (as I perceive it).

Re:The Kotlin Foundation by fulafel on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:26AM (#26131427)
Clojure exists outside the JVM as well (ClojureScript, Babashka, ClojureCLR)
Re:The Kotlin Foundation by blandflakes on Sunday February 14, 2021 @01:05PM (#26134530)
It does, but not in the same platform-antagonistic way. Clojure instead embraces many different platforms and runs on them through various dialects; Kotlin wants to become a platform.
Re:The Kotlin Foundation by kaba0 on Tuesday February 16, 2021 @12:32PM (#26156388)
Scala preceded it with both Scala Native and ScalaJS.