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Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by saagarjha on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:51PM (#26117809)
LLVM? WebKit?
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by coolspot on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:59PM (#26117896)
WebKit started as KDE’s KHTML/KJS and LLVM started as a research project at Univeristy of Illinois.

Apple took the code and extended it, they had little choice for the source code license.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webkit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LLVM

Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by saagarjha on Friday February 12, 2021 @06:39PM (#26119899)
They could have just not taken the code, though…
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by nsonha on Sunday February 14, 2021 @06:09AM (#26131331)
yeah, they're doing the world a favour by taking the code and conform to its licence, as opposed to... developing a new browser engine which is... easier?
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by tsegratis on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:54PM (#26117837)
Neither originated with Apple, though I agree Apple did a lot to push them and make them what they are
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by favorited on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:56PM (#26117861)
OK, Clang then.
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by coolspot on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:02PM (#26117928)
It’s started in the Univerity of Illinois, and still under their source code license.
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by favorited on Friday February 12, 2021 @03:06PM (#26117962)
No, that's where LLVM started. Clang was started from scratch at Apple to replace the GCC-LLVM frontend.

https://llvm.org/devmtg/2007-05/09-Naroff-CFE.pdf

Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by pjmlp on Saturday February 13, 2021 @03:38AM (#26122289)
Only because of GPL3, otherwise everyone would still be using GCC nowadays.
Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by echelon on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:55PM (#26117844)
WebKit got forked into Blink, which is no longer under Apple leadership. Brave, Chromium, and the other major KHTML-derived browsers adopted this.

I can think of dozens of examples from Microsoft and Google, which are more "outside ecosystem" inclusive as a means of gaining mindshare. TypeScript, Golang, Visual Studio Code, protobuf, gRPC, ...

Other companies think of the things living outside their moat more flexibly, or their moats are less rigid. That's not to say that Apple's approach is wrong (look at their market cap!), but it has different consequences in terms of the open source code mindshare they cultivate.

Re:Swift for TensorFlow Shuts Down by saagarjha on Friday February 12, 2021 @02:57PM (#26117875)
In what sense? 90% of the commits come from Apple and they drive most of the technical direction…