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Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by reedjosh on Thursday February 11, 2021 @04:53PM (#26107874)
> Say everyone in an unstable economy were paid in usd.

Then that country would be paying the unseen tax of inflation as the US banking system prints more and more USD. Said country would basically be a US colony.

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by jariel on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:51PM (#26109158)
Not at all.

It may not be optimal for certain reasons to use USD, and they'd lose some advantages, but there are others to be gained that might make it worth it.

To the extent there are no real capital controls on USD anywhere - and - the US Fed is separate from the government, then nobody is going to be a 'colony' of the US by using USD.

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by variaga on Thursday February 11, 2021 @05:28PM (#26108264)
TIL Zimbabwe, Ecuador, El Salvador, Palau, East Timor and the British Virgin Islands are all "basically US colonies".

What about countries that don't use the dollar as currency directly, but keep a fixed exchange rate to the dollar - they would be paying the unseen tax of inflation too, right? With a fixed exchange rate if the dollar value falls, so will the value of their currency. So that would mean Hong Kong, Cuba, Jordan and the Netherlands are all "basically US colonies" too. (China may be kind of surprised about that first one.)

Does this work for other currencies, or just $USD? Are Martinique, Andorra, Montenegro and Kosovo "basically EU colonies"? - they all use the Euro as currency, but are not part of either the EU or the EEA.

We don't actually have to hypothesize about what would happen if an unstable economy switched everything over to dollars (or Euros), either directly or by exchange rate peg, because it has already happened, many times.

https://www.worlddata.info/currencies/usd-us-dollar.php

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by IG_Semmelweiss on Thursday February 11, 2021 @11:41PM (#26110801)
Montenegro and Ecuador are effective colonies in their most developed areas.

Most of the valuable property in major metros is owned directly by US-based or EU-based emigrees , who paid top dollar for property that has a ROC duration in excess of 20 years.

Most of the metro areas on these countries are rapidly turning hollow projects which cheap rents or undeveloped land. It is quickly becoming like paris.

Flat rental 2000 EUR. Buy price: 2M EUR.

When someone that is not a local is taking all your valuable land... Thats the textbook definition of colony

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by reedjosh on Thursday February 11, 2021 @05:43PM (#26108420)
Your argument from incredulity doesn't make what I say less true. Maybe my language was a bit strong, but there's no denying if somebody can freely make more of something you value, then they're gaining from your use of said valuable.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by RobertoG on Friday February 12, 2021 @05:12AM (#26112112)
Andorra is definitely a EU colony, or more precisely, a France/Spain colony used for fiscal evasion.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by nathias on Friday February 12, 2021 @04:24AM (#26111915)
yes, calling them colonies are a stretch but there is a relation of dominance there, not just because of inflation but the whole credit system
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by arcticbull on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:06PM (#26108690)
This happens in many countries already, the inflation tax of the US banking system is 2% and not an issue. That does not make Panama or Hong Kong US colonies.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by omegaworks on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:24PM (#26108897)
It makes them economically dependent. Explicit rather than implicit client states of the US. Colonies in all but name.

When President Arnulfo Arias tried exercising his nation's right to issue sovereign currency, he was deposed in a US-backed coup on October 2, 1941.

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by MrMan on Thursday February 11, 2021 @10:14PM (#26110386)
Switching from one currency you can’t control to another doesn’t sound good
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by omegaworks on Friday February 12, 2021 @01:46PM (#26116984)
Exactly. The Bitcoin folks like to point to a "shadow cabal" that controls US currency as though that same problem doesn't exist in Bitcoin's architecture. At least we know the names of everyone serving on the Federal Reserve's board.

Bitcoin, on the other hand, can be controlled by any miner or group of miners having over 50% of the network's hash rate[1]. We don't know the identities of the miners and we have seen them engage in political actions that change the behavior of the currency[2].

1. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/51-attack.asp

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bitcoin_forks

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by reedjosh on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:28PM (#26108934)
That 2% number depends upon whether you trust the people inflating the USD to tell you what the inflation rate is.

Feel free to call shadowstats crazy, but nothing in it is false. It's just another perspective. http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by arcticbull on Thursday February 11, 2021 @09:18PM (#26110090)
“Shadow government statistics” is indeed nutters and not all perspectives deserve equal footing.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by enriquec on Friday February 12, 2021 @08:32AM (#26113411)
asks for evidence, gets link with evidence, dismisses as "nutters" without addressing the evidence at all. He is showed you the CPI as calculated pre-1980 with a page explaining the changes in methodology and why they're flawed. How is that "nutters"? You aren't having a discussion in good faith.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by Geee on Thursday February 11, 2021 @07:57PM (#26109632)
You are right. The official inflation rate is wrong and misleading.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by arcticbull on Thursday February 11, 2021 @09:17PM (#26110088)
Why don’t you provide some data instead of conjecture. We generally don’t accept that the government inflation numbers are just plain wrong without substantiation.
Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by IG_Semmelweiss on Friday February 12, 2021 @07:33AM (#26112954)
Sometimes common sense trumps data.

You dont need data to know that the sky is blue.

That being said parent did not help himself throwing statements out there without a foundation.

Here is what i believe he should have said:

CPI for goods fails in the following:

Accounting for changes in sizes and quality of certain products (i.e. instead of raising prices vendor will lower quality or amount of product )

Accounting for healthcare costs is fundamentally flawed. This only factors out of pocket costs when the majority of americans are effectively paying 80% of healthcare premiums via reduced grosd wages in the form of "employer contributions"

Accounting for substitutions of products in the cpi itself which are not reliable substitutes, or the exclusion of certain items (housing) which are clearly inflationary.

There is also a lot of criticism made for the boskin commision changes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boskin_Commission to cpi which messed with base prices and thus with true measurement of cpi.

Re:MasterCard to open up network to cryptocurrencies by arcticbull on Friday February 12, 2021 @12:07PM (#26115837)
> Sometimes common sense trumps data.

Data always trumps common sense, that's why we have science :) - if science had a motto that would be it! Sometimes we need more data, but common sense is often trivially wrong.

I would argue we do in fact need data to show the sky is blue. The data shows us the sky is not in fact "blue" but rather a blend of various peaks and valleys of radiation. [2] It's not so much blue as a bunch of colors at once that happen to be blue-dominant. Further it’s actually the “inverse of blue” in that blue is allowed to pass but all the other colors are absorbed.

> Accounting for substitutions of products in the cpi itself which are not reliable substitutes, or the exclusion of certain items (housing) which are clearly inflationary.

Housing on a $/sqft basis has tracked inflation since the 1970s across the US. What's changed is zoning policy, but zoning policy isn't a function of money supply. [1]

A reduction in welfare is not necessarily inflation or monetary policy, it can just as easily be social policy. You can't pin all society's ills on the evil Fed and their consistent and predictable 2% rate of inflation.

> Accounting for healthcare costs is fundamentally flawed.

Healthcare costs exceed inflation. That's not a function of monetary policy, it's a function of a fundamentally flawed healthcare system in the US that needs to be fixed. That's not the Fed's job, that's social policy.

> There is also a lot of criticism made for the boskin commision changes https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boskin_Commission to cpi which messed with base prices and thus with true measurement of cpi.

Peoples needs, wants and expectations change over time. In the same way the S&P 500 and Dow Jones cycle through companies that are no longer relevant, doing so with the CPI basket is the only rational thing to do. For instance, Caviar and Lobster used to be crap food for poor people -- they're crazy expensive now. Is that inflation? Of course not. Totally fair to eject them from the basket.

[1] https://fee.org/articles/new-homes-today-have-twice-the-squa...

[2] https://www.antenna-theory.com/tutorial/whyistheskyblue/purp...