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Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by mhh__ on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @10:14AM (#26090192)
Only if you listen to Fox news types who believe or want you to believe there is any real debate over climate change.
Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by brink on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @10:40AM (#26090598)
I think that OP is saying that science has become exceedingly politicized over the last decade. In which case they're right. Politically tainted science has emerged from the entire political spectrum, and it's enough to make you not want to trust what anyone claims to be science.
Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by 24gttghh on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @12:02PM (#26091767)
That's the thing... science is a method. If you have actual evidence, and reproducible results, then they speak for themselves. The problem is the wholesale, willful ignorance of this method.
Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by CivBase on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @02:47PM (#26093767)
> That's the thing... science is a method.

Exactly. Politicians and media outlets want us to believe science is just the opinions of people with credentials, regardless of evidence or consensus from others with similar credentials.

Once those opinions are shared by enough political supporters, those same politicians and media outlets will do everything they can to amass evidence which supports them. It often comes in the form of quasi-scientific studies with unmentioned flaws and limitations. If you're lucky, the studies will even be peer reviewed; but once the opinions which the study seeks to verified have been so heavily politicized, it's much harder to trust the effectiveness of peer reviews.

Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by 24gttghh on Thursday February 11, 2021 @10:23AM (#26102398)
No. One particular flavor of politician wants you to believe science is just "opinions". You're simply highlighting that those people are liars. That has nothing to do with the scientific method.
Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by CivBase on Thursday February 11, 2021 @12:50PM (#26104754)
> No. One particular flavor of politician wants you to believe science is just "opinions".

I'm not sure exactly which "flavor" you're referring to, but if I'd have to guess I'd say its the political party which aligns least with your own opinions.

> You're simply highlighting that those people are liars. That has nothing to do with the scientific method.

Yeah, that's what I said. Science is a method used to establish evidence for patterns and relationships. The opinions of individuals are not necessarily couched in science, regardless of their credentials.

Re:EPA Takes Action to Protect Scientific Integrity by mhh__ on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @04:05PM (#26094786)
Like what? Climate change for example has been independently confirmed so many times now - where is a list of papers that you are sure have been manipulated to suit political aims