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Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by michaelmrose on Saturday February 06, 2021 @04:30PM (#26050116)
For practical purposes the only people who can penetrate a simple vpn service are potentially a government order to start recording your traffic that is legal based on jurisdiction or a dedicated hacker.

It looks to me that NEITHER would be prevented by you using a colocated machine. It's not like your colocation provider is incapable of compromising you and probably would if ordered to do so in a jurisdiction where this act would be legal.

A hacker presumably isn't concerned about whether they are attacking a machine on your desk or in Nebraska.

Over a 5 year time frame your colocated machine would presumably run you between $6600 and $19000 and would have bought you zero additional privacy compared to paying $360 for a vpn in the same jurisdiction.

Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by sbierwagen on Saturday February 06, 2021 @04:32PM (#26050137)
These guys say they'll colo a raspberry pi for $9 a month: https://www.endoffice.com/picolo.html
Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by michaelmrose on Saturday February 06, 2021 @06:27PM (#26051137)
That is pretty neat.
Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by 411111111111111 on Sunday February 07, 2021 @02:59PM (#26057704)
Still almost twice the price though....
Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by evil-olive on Saturday February 06, 2021 @07:17PM (#26051432)
The problem is more that a commercial VPN changes the threat model from an individual one to a collective one.

Very likely, no one cares about me enough to put effort towards specifically monitoring or hijacking my internet traffic.

However, someone puts out a shingle as NordVPN or Mullvad or whatever else, and starts advertising VPN services to the world.

That VPN provider has a finite number of endpoints / egress nodes, and those become a very high value target. Now my threat model has to include not just targeted attacks at me, but general attacks on the VPN provider.

An analogy would be, if you have 1 million dollars worth of real-world valuables (artwork, say), it's better to store it in a nondescript warehouse than a warehouse with a neon billboard out front that says "BOB'S HIGH-SECURITY WAREHOUSE FOR EXPENSIVE VALUABLES". The latter is painting a giant target on itself for anyone interested in stealing stuff.

Re:NordVPN disables features when you turn off auto-renew by michaelmrose on Saturday February 06, 2021 @09:42PM (#26052165)
I think the analogy fails because thats valuable isn't a good that it is simply retained or lost. If your vpn usage for example is downloading movies the fact that bob the hacker knows you downloaded inception isn't very worrisome. Likewise with keeping your personal traffic personal instead of having it show up on your bosses network who cares if bob has it.

If the vpn provider doesn't keep any logs your total exposure is that they may start collecting logs of traffic for the duration during which they are compromised. If they are attentive and competent this either will never happen or it will be for a short duration. Again this breaks the example of valuables in storage.

In fact a VPS or indeed any host actually has the same problem you describe in that a host is a bigger target than you and therefore more valuable.

On the other hand for most people the differential between know how between you and professionals is probably sufficiently useful that you are less likely to get hacked with them than on your own. After all nobody has to actually target you in particular they can look for vulnerable hosts in an automated fashion.

I don't think you have provided any substantial argument for most commercial vpn users to switch. I feel like for most threat models its a more than acceptable tool.