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Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by raganwald on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:13PM (#2604297)
You see where you and I are coming from different places? My understanding is that in Saudi Arabia, the thief's hands would be cut off after a trial. Which is my point. I did not question someone remotely controlling their property. I questioned someone publishing certain pictures in a blog regardless of how they obtained them.

Now onto a subjective matter. A bicycle is a highly personal item for many people. It may not involve identity theft, but for some people it involves a loss of freedom and mobility that can't be replaced easily. My current bicycle has been highly personalized for my use. Having it stolen would be like having a bit of my soul stolen.

If you don't feel the same way about your bike, I quite understand.

UPDATE:

You said that "The dude lost his right to privacy when he stole a laptop." Did you notice what you just did? You convicted someone of an offence without trying them in a court of law. If we were in a jurisdiction where murder is a capital offence, you could use exactly the same logic for lynching and hanging a man without bothering to try him. He lost his right to life when he murdered, and we know he murdered, so fetch a rope and a horse.

Now some (strawman alert) might say that the evidence is overwhelming. Well, where do we draw the line? What's the rule for "We don't need a trial?" Pictures on the Internet? Eyewitness accounts?? Confessions? All of these have been proved unreliable in the past, which is why we have trials.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by nimblegorilla on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:26PM (#2604689)
Posting pictures on the internet is far different from lynching someone.

The court system and government should treat people as innocent until proven guilty. Private citizens have a lower responsibility.

At no point did the original poster claim that man stole his laptop - he merely stated that his laptop was stolen and posted pictures of the man currently possessing the stolen laptop. Other people assumed this man stole the laptop, which may or may not be accurate.

The man is in possession of stolen property. At some point we need to balance the owner's rights to retrieve stolen property against the right's of a man possessing stolen property to retain complete anonymity.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by orborde on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @06:51PM (#2605034)
Posting pictures on the internet is a great way to get a lynch mob going. Those people assuming this man stole the laptop can cause real harm as a result, and I'm not convinced that a smug "I never actually said that this man stole my laptop" should be an acceptable defense for the provocateur.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by forensic on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @11:00PM (#2605759)
A lynch mob is appropriate if the police refuse to act.

If elected officials do not enforce the law, the burden falls onto private citizens to do so. This is the common law with thousands of years of precedent.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by djackson on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:33PM (#2604411)
1. Person A has a laptop

2. Person A no longer has a laptop. Person A did not sell or give away this laptop. The laptop was stolen.

3. Person B now has the missing laptop.

Conclusion: Person B is in possession of a stolen laptop.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by raganwald on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:43PM (#2604463)
This is fine line or argument, but don't you think it belongs in a courtroom, being made to a jury that has been shown all of the evidence and who will also hear the accused make his own arguments for his innocence?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by dhh on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @06:39PM (#2604983)
This is a modern day wanted poster. I think it's completely fine. He hasn't been convicted to any material degree: He's still free, unhurt, and in possession of the item.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by dtegart on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:17PM (#2604644)
The website appears to have been created in response to the inability of the police to bring the person, allegedly responsible, into a courtroom to explain why he is in possession of a stolen laptop.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by rosser on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:30PM (#2604712)
Isn't possession of stolen property prima facie proof of guilt of ... possession of stolen property?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by Periodic on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @09:19PM (#2605453)
Is buying stolen property, which you seller does not tell you is stolen, over Craig's List equivalent to stealing the item? Should the buyer be jailed?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by by on Wednesday June 01, 2011 @07:49AM (#2606854)
No. The police possess a great deal of stolen property. The entire police force would collapse into a blue hole if they had to arrest everybody in possession of stolen property. The crime is knowing it is stolen and having no intent to return it.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by djackson on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @06:24PM (#2604927)
Yeah.. that was pretty much what I was going for, there.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by wnoise on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:21PM (#2604663)
That's definitely required before bringing the resources of the state to bear in punishing the person.

If you're not doing that, then no, it needn't be.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by davej on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:57PM (#2604533)
In this case it seems unlikely but bear in mind that it's possible to be in possession of stolen goods without knowing they're stolen.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by furyg3 on Wednesday June 01, 2011 @06:40AM (#2606718)
Of course it's possible to be in possession of stolen goods without knowing they're stolen... but that does not remove the rights of the "owner" of the laptop to remotely control his equipment. If you buy a Blackberry for cheap off of Craigslist, it sucks when the owner bricks it after a week and you loose all your photos/contacts/sms messages. But legally its still his phone, he can do what he wants with it.

This guy also has every right to collect and publicize any information collected by the laptop which will help him locate it. He's titled it "This guy has my MacBook", not stole, and he hasn't posted anything irresponsibly that I've seen.

He has every right to collect the guy's personal information, too, but that doesn't mean he can use his credit card or publish his social security number.

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by latch on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @09:58PM (#2605568)
What makes it seem unlikely?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by davej on Wednesday June 01, 2011 @08:58PM (#2610133)
The fact that he's shown driving away with the laptop shortly after stealing it.
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by BlazingFrog on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:52PM (#2604505)
I don't see any evidence that Person B stole Person A's laptop or that Person B is even aware than the laptop was stolen. Or maybe that was the point you were making?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by BrandonM on Wednesday June 01, 2011 @11:19AM (#2607629)
How about the bit where he shows the person deleting his profile?
Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by wesleyb on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @04:47PM (#2604479)
2.5 Thief logs onto ebay and sells laptop to Person B

Conclusion?

Re:This Guy Has My MacBook by joahua on Tuesday May 31, 2011 @05:51PM (#2604804)
Person B is still in possession of stolen goods (which has certain legal consequences at least in Australia)