Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by fastball on Friday February 05, 2021 @07:21AM
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Most large orgs don't beg for my money after I've already given them my time for free though.
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by unethical_ban on Friday February 05, 2021 @09:49AM
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Should they have put logic into their banner ads and email to exempt any logged-in user who ever made an edit?
If you have a new point to make, it's best to make it as a top level comment rather than trying to prop yourself up as opposing a point someone never made.
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by Clewza313 on Friday February 05, 2021 @07:56AM
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Wikimedia is free for its users and doesn't do ads, you need to pay the server bills and find development somehow.
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by m3at on Friday February 05, 2021 @08:38AM
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It absolutely does, and Wikipedia gets my donation yearly for that. However there are legitimate questions about how much/few of that is dedicated to its core tasks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has...
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by fastball on Friday February 05, 2021 @09:45AM
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Right, it is not like most large orgs. So the excuse "most large orgs throw parties" is not a good one, imo.
Though tbh "other orgs do it" is never a good argument, but it is especially bad here.
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by Clewza313 on Friday February 05, 2021 @10:25AM
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I've attended a bunch of Wikimedia/Wikimania conferences. These are held on a shoestring budget, and any drinking and dancing is on participants' own dime.
WMF's per-employee T&E cost is apparently $7k/year. Working in sales at a company you've heard of, I've flown single flights and attended single dinners that cost more than that.
Re:Stepping Down as CEO of the Wikimedia Foundation
by fastball on Friday February 05, 2021 @01:31PM
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Yes, except WMF should not be doing sales.
They're an online wikipedia. Their costs keep ballooning, and not to pay for things that I care about when I donate money to support their core mission.
What? They aren't a fraternity, so I don't think drinking is mandatory.
If you look at any large organization it has these kinds of frivolous events. Among other things, they let the leadership get a sense of the social environment and how it reacts to some of their ideas with less filtering. I personally don't attend most of these events, but it is really a silly direction to assume everything that is not technically necessary is a waste of money.