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Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ... by foxyv on Thursday February 04, 2021 @10:53AM (#26026399)
Not really, older car companies just make the same cars over and over again with slightly changed designs. They have decades of iteration on their designs and any major changes always end up having problems. Even then they have iterated into cheap junk for the most part aside from a few automakers. Plus, anything software related on these cars is horrible stinking garbage. Check any car older than 5 years and there will be 1-2 recalls on them.

Tesla is pretty much going through the same thing all automakers go through except it's "Tesla." Sure if they hired a few engineers out of retirement to consult they could have identified a few of these issues, but then they wouldn't have released before the balloon went up and the bulls gored them.

Generally, this isn't Tesla's biggest problem. Delivery, support, and maintenance are the big ones they are losing out on. That's what's making this recall such a big issue for them. They didn't have enough dealers to make repairs or spare parts which is why they are dragging their heels on recalls. But they are catching up there as well in typical Tesla fashion.

Sure they will piss off a few car owners, but people tend to be REALLY loyal to car brands. Just ask any Porsche owner who spends more time at the mechanic than on the road.

Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ... by rmah on Thursday February 04, 2021 @06:01PM (#26030802)
Most cars made today are absurdly high quality compared to when I was a youth 40 years ago. A typical car made in the 1980's would be lump of rust and barely functional after 50,000 miles. Nearly any car made today is still almost like brand new after 50,000 miles. The production quality improvements made by the auto industry are, IMO, nothing short of amazing.
Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ... by foxyv on Friday February 05, 2021 @11:39AM (#26038168)
> A typical car made in the 1980's would be lump of rust and barely functional after 50,000 miles.

True, but 1980 was more than 40 years ago. The cars since the early 2000s have been trending towards cheaper parts, lower quality transmissions, and turbo charged low displacement engines. They are dialing most cars production costs down until they last just long enough for the warranty to run out. Most car manufacturer warranties don't even have more than 60k miles.

Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ... by carlmr on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:58PM (#26029690)
>They have decades of iteration on their designs and any major changes always end up having problems.

Even new designs have better fit and finish. The old automakers do know more about manufacturing.

Software is another issue though.

Re:Elon Musk admits Tesla car quality flaws, says mass produ... by fomine3 on Friday February 05, 2021 @01:23AM (#26033660)
Do you talk about 80s?