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Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by Broken_Hippo on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:26AM (#26023719)
I'm OK with this. Private messages have shared ownership. You weren't sending them to yourself. Yes, there might be identifying information in the content of the messages. Yes, in the majority of cases it wouldn't make a difference.

In some minority of cases, though, they would. Abusive ex sending you messages over discord? Yeah, those might be evidence especially when both parties are saying different things. This is the most common example I can think of, but I'm sure there are others. Heck, even if someone wanted to reminisce about days gone by... they should have the right to do so in conversations they were involved in.

Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by johnisgood on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:38AM (#26023785)
Well, I thought they would delete them after having requested it, but they did not. In any case, there is a feature on Discord: I can delete messages (for everyone). So as long as I can log in to Discord, I can delete messages. I doubt they actually get deleted though, probably just changes its visibility, but in any case... why would not they do that if I could do it anyway were I to be able to log in?
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by anticensor on Thursday February 04, 2021 @04:16AM (#26023951)
> I doubt they actually get deleted though, probably just changes its visibility

They are actually deleted, unlike many other platforms. If not, the problem described here would not arise in the first place: https://blog.discord.com/how-discord-stores-billions-of-mess...

Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by johnisgood on Thursday February 04, 2021 @04:20AM (#26023969)
Yeah, I am not leaning towards either way stubbornly, I am open minded about it, I just know that many places really only just changes the visibility. In any case, thank you for the link!
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by stef25 on Thursday February 04, 2021 @06:05AM (#26024396)
GDPR rules (which may not apply to you or Discord, not sure) say a company MUST hard delete a user's data upon request. Except if company can claim to need it, like for invoicing / tax reasons. Seems reasonable.
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by pessimizer on Thursday February 04, 2021 @08:19AM (#26025064)
Are messages that you sent to someone else still your data? If I sent you a letter, a court wouldn't tell you to burn it and any copies on my request.
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by foepys on Thursday February 04, 2021 @08:39AM (#26025190)
I'd be with you if each message was end to end encrypted and/or exclusively physically stored on the users devices. But it isn't. It's on Discord's servers.
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by jaywalk on Thursday February 04, 2021 @09:38AM (#26025641)
That doesn't change the fact that they still also belong to someone else who may very well want to keep them.
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by Spivak on Thursday February 04, 2021 @10:16AM (#26025992)
Or another way of saying this is that the optimization of only storing one copy of each message doesn't change user-visible semantics of each user having their own copy of their messages.

But I thought Discord, somewhat controversially, did actually let one person delete messages from all parties. Maybe they eventually caved because it enabled abuses/harassers to deprive their victims of evidence.

Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by johnisgood on Friday February 05, 2021 @12:34AM (#26033452)
You can still delete your messages on Discord, be it in a DM (direct message), or in a channel. You can even edit them, and there is no edit history.

Although administrators can take away your right to even see the existence of a channel, which means that you no longer can delete your messages in that channel, since you have to see the messages to be able to delete them. For the record: if you have the permissions, you can delete anyone's messages in a channel.

Similar issues can arise in direct messages, for example if you closed the DM, and say, you left all mutual servers, and you unfriended your friend (without blocking), and the person changed his or her name so you are no longer able to add him or her back. When you add someone, that person will appear in "Pending" friends after having added, so you can click on "Message" to open the DM. Without that, you cannot open the DM, which again means that you cannot see the messages, thus you cannot delete them. I put "without blocking" in parentheses, because if you block someone, they will appear in "Blocked" friends, and it keeps track of changes in their name or even ID (that they are able to change with Discord Nitro), and you can open a DM easily from there. To open up the DM, you right click on the name, then click on "Message" which you can only do if 1) the person is in the same server you are, 2) the person is your friend, 3) the person is in "Pending" friends, or 4) if the person is in "Blocked" friends.

Alternatively, if you lose access to your account through losing your password, getting your account disabled, or removed by you or Discord. In this case, too, you lose the ability to delete your messages.

To bulk delete your messages, you can use https://github.com/victornpb/deleteDiscordMessages. If you have sent 100k messages, then it could take hours for your messages to get deleted due to rate-limiting. This script does nothing more than what you can already do manually; delete the messages you can see.

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TL;DR: You can delete (and edit) your own messages on Discord as long as you can see them (have access to them), and you can delete other people's messages from channels if you have the right permissions.

Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by user3939382 on Thursday February 04, 2021 @06:21AM (#26024457)
So does California state law
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by secondcoming on Thursday February 04, 2021 @07:15AM (#26024706)
I send myself messages in Slack all the time so I don't forget something.
Re:Parler CEO says he was fired by board by Broken_Hippo on Thursday February 04, 2021 @08:33AM (#26025155)
This, to me, would be the exception. I'd wager that the majority of messages aren't notes to self, though.